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This is ø-LiNE, i just read 'watch-it.txt', and thought i might add
somethings to it as it in the whole seems like pure speculation: This file
is in its original form apart from the additions by me seperated by
[ ]'s.
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I wish to remain anon for this file as it may jeopadise my accounts
on some of the following bbs`s ect also I am alledgly on the so called HIT
LIST.
Yesterday a very involved member of the H&P scene was busted by adrian gorham
from bt security at a very inconvienient hour of the night. Floowing him
being interviewed he learnt some very interesting information that confirms
the thoery that bt know more that what we think they know.
these thing include the following.
--- ONE ---
BT Security have accounts on the following BBS`s.
DUK & COVER (RIP)
Permanent Vacation
Switch Board
and probably more.
--- TWO ---
Premere World Link was a trap from the start. The company was set up by MCI
as a trap to catch everybody who use cc`s to call fraudulently. If it was
not a trap then why is it still running. Surely if it was a real company
they would have boycotted setting cards up so easily like the other cc`s
companies.
[Where is your proof? it is unlikely that such an operation would be set up
purely for the reasons of catching carders! If there was then would be
expecting a LOT more busts than have been happening! I doubt there is much
MCI could do about the situation anyway being an American-born company - they
would have a lot of problems regarding international laws etc, also they
would have to coordinate with BT!]
--- THREE ---
BT are logging calls from people being busted and cross refferencing this
information to see who knows who and to plan their next busts.
--- FOUR ---
DEF CON VOICE BRIDGE - This is set up by the feds and is used to gather
information on telephone fraudsters. Think about it, A person is given
over 16 thousand dollars worth of hardware and telephone lines for free to
run a free voicebridge for hackers and phreakers. Get Real the thing is
paid for by the major telephone companies from around the world and is used
and monitored by them. I have proof because BT have information on an
associate of the berson who got busted and the only way they could have got
that information is by monitoring either defcon or the persons in questions
line. Which is against there policies (YEAH RIGHT).
[HAHAHA! Although it is totally feasible that DEFCON is monitored by police
etc, there is no way they would have set the bloody thing up! You say that
BT have got infomation.. fine, so what? They could have got the evidence
by monitoring his line! This would definatly not require the extremly
unlikely scenerio of the major telecommunications companys of the world
combining and setting up a voice-bridge in America to catch hackers!]
--- FIVE ---
Adrian Groham and associates read every TXT file on the H&P scene and have
access to every message sent by grabbing datapackets by monitoring lines.
[ This is equally ssttuuppiidd... i really don't think BT would bother with
such a big operation to catch phreaks who only account for a small
percentage of their loss due to fraud... and Adrian Gorham would NOT have
the authority to set such a thing up! Think of the man-power involved in
pulling together all the H&P BBSs - lame and otherwise, and setting up
equiptment to monitor every single one of their lines! For the main part,
datapackets are not used as packet-switching is not needed when calling
locally - and it would require special circumstances to redivert the phone
call! I do not deny the possibility that they have access to BBSs and can
get the files like this, but they would not be able to read private mail and
they could not set up accounts on EVERY bbs.. ]
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OK well I hope this has made you think twice and i can tell you now I do not
work for BT but I am a person who cares and does not want fellow associates
busted for their uncarefulness.
[- be careful - not paranoid - discover - don't speculate -]
[ well, i don't think that the file actually does anything
for anybody - being based on pure speculation and no proof..
and we can do without stuff like it.. anyway, you can make
up your own mind.. ø-LiNE ]
Greets to SEMTEX.
Signing Off
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