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	   1		Titlepage	     F1
	   2		Editorial	     F2
	 3 - 7		Messages	     F3
	 8 - 11		Diskmagazines	     F4
	12 - 13		The Random Bit	     F5
	  14		The End		     F6




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RAISTLIN'S MESSAGE-BOX                                       ISSUE 5 : AUGUST 91
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                        Coding .. Kreator / Anarchy
		          Font .. Kreator / Anarchy
		         Music .. 4-Mat / Anarchy
		          Logo .. Mystik / Anarchy
		          Text .. Raistlin / Genesis Project
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Raistlin's message-box  is a copyrighted release of Genesis Project.  All rights
are reserved.  No part of this product may be copied, reproduced,  translated or
reduced  to any  electronic medium  or machine-readable  form without  the prior
written consent of Raistlin/Genesis Project, 42 Browfield Terrace, Silsden, Near
Keighley, West Yorkshire, BD20 9PT. ENGLAND.
   PS. Only joking!
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                                 EDITORIAL
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   After a long  abscence from the Amiga scene  (and computers in general),  I'm
back! (Hey, I'm not that bad am I?!?).. I heard from Mr.Big of Anarchy that many
more groups are starting to do these "Message-box" things - personally I haven't
seen any of them, but it's nice to think that I might have started off a craze!!
(But on the other hand, if as many people start making these things as there are
people making REAL magazines,  I imagine that you will all start getting sick of
these minizines!)...

   Originally,  all I intended to use my message-box for was to give Messages to
my own contacts and friends,  but now I think I will  also use this as a way for
me to express my own  opinions of the  whole Amiga-scene.  Hopefully that should
make this 'MINIZINE' (as I like to call it) interesting to a much larger public.
I know I did that in the original Raistlin's Message Box, but I was very limited
as to what I could write  about then - being a member of a group  that wanted to
be successful in the 'Crusaders Eurochart' and all the other charts, I had to be
careful not to upset potential voters...   But now that I am a member of Genesis
Project (again), a group that hasn't even got off the ground on the Amiga, I can
write anything I like... And I will!
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                                   MESSAGES
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Marc Panther...  Hi Marc!,  thanks a lot for all the videos,  disks, etc...  You
   are without a doubt my best contact,  please keep it up!  Hopefully Deek will
   send you the cordless joysticks soon...  I've given him your new address,  so
   he has no excuses now,  right?!?  While I remember - it's great to  hear that
   you're going to release some new  music disks soon!  It sure has been  a long
   time since I last heard some of your music!  I don't suppose you have any new
   pieces that would suit this message-box, would you??

Deek... Yo Richard!,  don't you think  it's about  time you started  making some
   music on  the Amiga?..  Has JCH done  an Amiga  music-routine yet  or what???
   Anyway, I hope you liked "Delirious 10" - I will not  be making any more C-64
   demos, which is why I tried to make that one something special!  Well anyway,
   hope we can meet at the CES show this year!

Pioneer... Hope you had  a great time  in France!  Good luck  with your  A-Level
   results  (not that you'll need it!),  I bet the dreadful  thought of going to
   the same University as me really helped you discipline yourself into revising
   for the exams, eh?!?  Anyway, see you soon OK...
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Mr.Big...   Hey John, thanks a lot for the constant  supply of new  warez!  Hope
   you can visit us again in Silsden in the near future...  Well anyway, keep up
   the good work!.. Anarchy is doing pretty well for itself these days!

Banger...   Thanks  for  putting up with my  lame sendings  Gareth!  Will you be
   going to this year's CES-Show? I expect so, you never seem to miss any of the
   major events!  I will probably be going to the CES again this year,  but that 
   depends on  whether my C-64  friends  are going  on the same  day as  all the
   Amiga-guys! (Everyone seemed to turn up on different days last year!)

Zarch... Hi Mick!, your recent intros were very nice!  They worked  perfectly on
   my ECS  machine as well...   I saw your intro for Anarchy  -  that was pretty
   good too! Maybe the coding wasn't "State Of The Art", but the styling of your
   intros were great - which is more  than can be said of a  lot of intros these
   days!  Oh, by the way - Kreator  tells me your new  intros don't  work on HIS
   Amiga now!... Wierd eh?

Mole... Yo Adrian!, how are you doing at learning to code?..  Hopefully we'll be
   seeing lots of intros and demos from you in the near future!   Anyway, thanks
   a lot for  all the cool  sendings etc...
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Kreator.. Thanks a lot for coding this cool new Message-Box outfit for me!  With
   any luck I will have this  text written in time for you to release this issue
   at the Anarchy-meeting  on Sunday!  Your new game is  looking pretty  cool so
   far, hope you get a contract with Core Design (or whatever company you decide
   to sell the game to!)..  Good luck at Leeds OK...

The Chief.. Yo Tony!  Hopefully I'll be  able to visit you very soon...  I won't
   have many (if any) new warez for you though,  because I haven't been swapping
   on the C-64 at all lately!  Sorry..

Flamingo.. Hi Oskar, are you planning to code any Amiga demos in the near future
   or will you be sticking to the C-64??.. Personally I think that the C-64 demo
   scene has just about dried up.  The only good remaining  groups are Crest and
   Light!..  What do you think?

Judge Drokk.. Long time no see, Mark!...  I've got a  question that  I've always
   wanted to ask you :  were those Obscene Phonecalls for real or what?!?   Some
   of the calls seems a little  hard to believe!  (like the one where you phoned
   your mother!...)  Anyway, hope to see you at the CES-show this September,  or
   before then if you and John visit again...
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Bustman.. I'm back!  I hope we can swap again  now that my A-Levels  are over!..
   Maybe you could make a logo for this  new Message-Box outfit? Hope so, you're
   a very cool artist!  If ever  you visit England,  give me  a call and  we can
   arrange a meeting!

Dr.Awesome.. Hey, Marc tells me you left  Crusaders and started  working legally
   under your  real name...  Does that mean you won't  be writing any  more demo
   tunes or what?!?   Anyway, please write back soon OK?

Mystik.. Hi Alan!, sorry I couldn't make it to your little meeting!  I think the
   RMB logo of yours (above) is very cool!... Also, all your recent graphics for
   Anarchy have been SUPERB!   You must be one of the best Amiga graphic-artists
   on the scene at the moment!

Mediator.. Shame to hear about your 'seeing the light'! Are you sure you weren't
   being given drugs when you went to that Christianity thing?!?

Igor.. Your graphics have  been really cool  lately Scott!...  Your new style of
   logos/fonts  is very nice!   Hope we can see some  new works  from you in the
   near future!
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Kid Video.. Yo Alan!, haven't heard from you in a long time!.. Maybe we can swap
   now that I'm back on the scene??  I don't have your address,  so please phone
   me or something OK??  Anyway, hope to see you at CES this year!

Dan.. Hi Dan!,  your demo-previews looked very cool,  can't wait to see the demo
   when it's finished!!  Well anyway,  I hope you get good A-Level  results next
   week! See you at the CES...

Antichrist.. Are you coming to the CES again  this year mate?  I missed you last
   year because you were there the day before me.. (I was there on the last day)
   You won't get to see this Minizine,  which makes  me wonder why on  earth I'm
   writing this to you... Hmm... Hope to see you soon OK!


   Well anyway,  that's enough  messages for  this time!  Hopefully this section
will get bigger and  better when I get  more contacts...  But we'll just have to
see about that, won't we?!?



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                                DISK-MAGAZINES
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   I know that I've covered this subject in the past, but I think the problem of
Disk-Magazines is getting worse by the minute!  So I thought I'd  write a bit of
text to express my views about the magazines currently on the scene...

   Firstly, I think that there are FAR too many magazines on the scene. Too many
groups are releasing magazines - it  wouldn't be too bad  if there was  a bit of
variance between each magazine,  but basically  they are all  the same!  The key
features of every magazine being:-

                              1. The Charts
			      2. News/Gossip
			      3. Interviews (and lots of them!)

   Fair enough, those sections seem necessary for ALL magazines.. But ARE they??
The "Crusaders Eurochart" was once the only REAL chart on the scene...  Being so
popular also meant that the charts would represent the scene much better, due to
the large number of voters. But now there are  a million different charts,  many
of which will be cheated...
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   I myself think that any groups  who insist on publishing  charts in their own
magazines should be prepared to disclude their  own group from the charts.  That
is where the problem lies - many groups make the excuse that  their charts would
not be "true" charts if they were not to include themselves...  But the truth of
the  matter is  (as I discovered  when I wrote my own  disk-magazine on the C-64
many moons ago), the voters tend  to vote for the  group that is  publishing the
magazine in a higher place than they would usually. That is particularly true if
the voters in  question swap with  members of the  group that is  publishing the
magazine...  While I was making my own magazine,  "ENDEMIC", when I  counted the
votes for one issue, Endemic was rated as the 3rd best magazine on the scene....
How could this be (honestly) possible  when no other  magazine even  FEATURED my
magazine in the charts?!?


   Moving on... The "news" sections of most magazines seem to be just long lists
of "xxx left xxx  and joined xxx",  "xxx was kicked out  of xxx for being lame",
"xxx quit the scene", etc... Who is honestly interested in all that??  Most mags
these days seem to be competing for the longest news-sections,  and they do that
simply by collating all the group-changes, and pad out each one into a paragraph
- come on guys, how about doing something original for a change?!?
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   Then there's the "Interviews"...  What a laugh!  Far too many  magazines seem
to use photocopied "Interview-sheets" with STANDARD questions on..  I mean,  all
the interviews seem to be the same!  Standard questions are:-

 "What music/films/food/drinks/magazines do you like?"
 "Do you have any hobbies apart from computing?"
 "What computers have you had?"
 "How many years have you been computing?"
 "What were your previous groups?"
 "Who are your favourite coders/musicians/artists?"
 "Have you any enemies in the scene?"

   ... etc. What is the point of  having interviews if the  interviewers ask the
same boring old questions EVERY time???  Think about it, OK guys??

   A fourth standard section of every magazine  (which I almost forgot!) are the
"Adverts"...  Well, maybe this section is useful to some people, but what is the
point in padding  out adverts when  they might  just as well  be a long  list of
addresses for people who want to swap?  Then all the REAL adverts (sales, wants,
etc...) could be placed at the end... 
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   I know it is beginning to look like I have something against all disk-mags at
this point, but believe me that there are a few which I actually enjoy reading!!
(I won't mention which  ones though..)  But what I think would help  the present
state of disk-magazines is for  the editors to write things  that they know will
be of interest...  Is there any point in typing out loads of news / adverts when
nobody is going to read them??  Try to make  interviews more interesting...  And
why not make your charts more BELIEVABLE by discluding  your own group  (and all
groups who co-produce your magazine) from the charts... 

   And, as I said in a previous Message-Box,  why not help  reduce the number of
disk-magazines by joining forces with another diskmag. The new magazine would be
better, more likely to be read, and will be distributed to a wider public...

   Finally a note to the people who just read disk-magazines...  If you have any
views, new ideas for articles, or whatever - tell the people who write the mags!
But please don't go starting another new diskmagazine just because  you have ONE
new idea!!! If there are things that you don't  like about disk-magazines,  tell
the people who write them...

   Lecture over...
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                                THE RANDOM BIT
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TETRIS
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   Has anybody coded a good version  of this game yet?  The best versions I have
seen are "TWINTRIS"  and  "TETRACOPY" (!)...  Please send me a copy  of any good
TETRIS conversions- it is still one of the best games ever made! Find my address
at the front of this minizine!


MINIZINE
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   As far as I know, I was the first person to make one of these "Message-boxes"
and so I thought I'd  better give it a name!...  I thought "Minizine"  was quite
appropriate..  It will save me from  having to  write "Message-box"  everytime I
refer to this, erm, Minizine!  Oh, the title Minizine isn't copyrighted, so feel
free to call any similar  productions of your own  the same...  But please don't
just copy my "Message-Box" idea, unless you have some original ideas of your own
OK!!!

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GENESIS PROJECT : A brief story
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   "Genesis Project" (or Genesis for short) has been active on the C-64 for over
5 years now - as a cracking/demo group. The group has around 30 members, with 25
of them being what I like to call "Stable"- the other 5 member places constantly
changing (for various reasons). 

   Although a couple of members of Genesis have made Amiga demos  (Veda made one
a long time ago, and so did x-member Pioneer) the group has been pretty inactive
on the Amiga... But a while ago a group was formed,  called "Genesis",  and they
cracked a lot of games... Obviously this group didn't know that we existed,  but
anyway, try not to confuse us with them OK...

   A while ago Genesis had some problems when some lamers joined the group- they
started allowing people to "Join" Genesis  (without permission from any other of
the Genesis members)  for MONEY!  In addition,  they cheated the charts in their
own magazine, and this really made Genesis look bad!  Anyway,  these lamers have
now been kicked out of Genesis - but many guys (all over the world)  still think
that they are members of Genesis!!!  It's really a mess, and needs sorting out..
I think 30 members is too many as it is!!!
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                                   THE END
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   Well, that's it for this issue...  I know there weren't many pages this time,
but please understand that  I have a lot on lately,  what with finishing my demo
on the C-64, swapping, and still having spare time for general lazing around!

   Hopefully the next issue of RAISTLIN'S MESSAGE-BOX will be  released sometime
in September - and will definitely have more pages than this one!  Anyway,  here
is my address once again:-

			Raistlin / Genesis Project,
			Robert Troughton,
			42 Browfield Terrace,
			Silsden,
			Near Keighley,
			West Yorkshire,
			BD20 9PT.
			ENGLAND.

   Bye for now, and I'll see you all at the CES show in September!!
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