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demoj091
12/05/2000
subscribers: 368


question of the week:

anyone ever noticed how we are what the
sociologists define by ever-growing global village?
someone should write sociological thesis on demoscene


last week reactions:

> Should democompos on big demoparties
> be separated? (non3dacc, 3dacc, java)

yes they should be seperated if there are
at least 5 entries per seperate compo.
no need to seperate java, because java is
just another programming language...
-unlock

yes! of coz!
-goro

Yes, unless there are not enough entries
to make it standalone compos. And if they
are combined, the public should be informed
what category the next demo should have been in,
so we can take that in account.
-Seven

no. today demos are not limited by hardware
but by what people can archieve. and i don't
really see much difference today between those
two types of demos. java? take a look at godog
and other cool stuff and you'll agree that
there's not much difference either.
a good coder with good artists can make good
demos on every configuration (or bad ones).
-bam

It depends on how many entries there are for
the different platforms (Dos, Win, Linux, Java).
Because if all platforms have their own compo,
there will be to much compos at the party with
only a few entries each. For 3Dacc, I think they
have to compete in the same compo as non-3Dacc;
just mention it before the demo shows.
-DJefke

of course not !!
demo is art
-flod

of course :)
-Szum

They should be separated, but not in the way
you suggest. I think separating into "ibm-x86",
"amiga/0x0/ppc" and perhaps "mac/0x0/ppc",
"playstation/?" is better, but all os for one
platform should compete in the same compo.
-Malte

combine!! ever! everything should go into one
compo! Which prick ever thought of separating
by os or hardware?? eek! in a century which is
moving towards style and ideas (no i won't name
the controversial d- word here), which technique
is used to visualize those ideas is less important.
Compo organisers should just clearly state what
os/hardware/etc is used for the next demo
(like a screen with "Title: bla, Group: bla,
System: Win32, 3d acc" or something), in which
way an amiga demo performing q3a-quality 3d shows
will still show of bigtime because people KNOW
it was done on amiga. With a lack of entries one
could even think of combining 4k, 64k and democompos.
or ehm, well. 64k and demo at least, as coding them
is quite equally done, only the way resources are
used isn't. And about the quote 'big demoparties':
they don't exist anymore. the big parties have turned
into gamerparties, and sceners fled to smaller parties
making them bigger, but them still not being the real
big parties like there used to be, as people all
go to different smaller parties.
-egd


news:

kfmf goes mp3 full throttle.
http://www.kosmic.org/what.html

theralite release #8
optic - "to the moon"
ftp://ftp.scene.org/pub/music/groups/theralite/mp3/thera008_optic-to_the_moon.mp3
http://theralite.avalon.hr

hmm.. psychedelic spectrum flavour dynamic webpages
zden/satori and friends..
http://haluska.sk

Please vote for eurocharts (now PC)
http://www.eurocharts.org/

Far West 2 was held.
Tip: winning demo.
http://www.esiea-ouest.fr/pp/renard

Parodox 2000 was held aswell.
Tip: winning intro.
http://www.pdx2k.org

"summer encounter 2k" morphed into "scene event 2k"
due to name copyright problems.
It will still be held same place same date.
http://se2k.dk

bustrip to se2k from paris/france is also still
beeing organized. Different name same destination.
http://flod.planet-d.net

Fleur#5 will soon be out, flash interface.
any support would be great.
d-lee303@mailcity.com

due to popular demand the scene links in the
end of demojournal have returned.
complain to your aunt if you dislike it.


upcoming demoparties:

May 12 - May 13, 2000 Russia    Millennium          http://www.zx.da.ru
May 13 - May 15, 2000 Russia    SPRYG 2k            http://www.hackzone.ru/spryg
May 12 - May 14, 2000 Finland   Escape 2k           http://escape.stc.cx
May 26 - May 28, 2000 Germany   Radwar Party 2000   http://www.radwar.com

Jun 16 - Jun 18, 2000 Holland   Takeover 2000       http://www.takeover.nl
Jun 16 - Jun 18, 2000 Finland   Plutonium 2000      http://plutonium2000.cjb.net
Jun 29 - Jul 02, 2000 Sweden    Remedy 2000         http://www.remedy.nu

Jul 07 - Jul 09, 2000 France    VIP 2               http://popsyteam.rtel.fr/VIP
Jul 14 - Jul 16, 2000 Belgium   Inscene 2000        http://www.inscene.org
Jul ?? - Jul ??, 2000 Finland   Proxy 1886          http://www.proxy.kannus.fi
Jul ?? - Jul ??, 2000 Poland    Horizon 2000        http://www.horizon2k.ae.pl
Jul 19 - Jul 22, 2000 Denmark   se2k                http://se2k.dk
Jul 22 - Jul 25, 2000 Spain     Euskal party 8      http://www.euskalparty.org
Jul 28 - Jul 30, 2000 Sweden    Little comp. people http://www.lcp2000.c64.org
Jul 28 - Jul 30, 2000 Hungary   Flag 2000           http://flag2000.flashdesign.hu

Aug 04 - Aug 06, 2000 France    Ze meeting 2000     http://roudoudou.planet-d.net/zemeeting/zemeeting.html
Aug 03 - Aug 06, 2000 Finland   Assembly 2000       http://www.assembly.org
Aug 07 - Aug 13, 2000 Spain     Campus party 2000   http://www.campus-party.org
Aug 11 - Aug 13, 2000 Swiss     Buenzli #9          http://www.buenz.li
Aug 18 - aug 20, 2000 Germany   Evoke #5            http://www.evoke-net.de
Aug 19 - Aug 20, 2000 Russia    Chaos Const. 2000   http://www.chaosite.com/constructions
Aug 25 - Aug 27, 2000 France    LTP 4               http://ltp.planet-d.net
Aug ?? - Aug ??, 2000 Canada    Coma 2              http://altern.org/glutomax/coma2
Aug 31 - Sep 03, 2000 France    aRTS Y2K            http://www.rtsy.org

Sep ?? - Sep ??, 2000 Poland    Gravity 2000        http://www.demoscena.pl/gravity

Oct ?? - Oct ??, 2000 Finland   lobotomia
Oct ?? - Oct ??, 2000 Germany   Dialogos 2000       http://www.dialogos.cc

Nov 03 - Nov 05, 2000 France    Millenium Party 2K  http://Party2k.citeweb.net
Nov 03 - Nov 05, 2000 Belgium   2-THOUSAND          http://www.multimania.com/tthousand

Dec 01 - Dec 03, 2000 Finland   Tapahtuma5
Dec 15 - Dec 17, 2000 Holland   ST News ICCC 2000   http://www.fortysecond.net/stniccc2000


group links:
        
3g Design..............................http://3gdesign.cjb.net
Aardbei.....................................http://aardbei.com
Acid Rain..............................http://surf.to/acidrain
Agravedict........................http://www.agravedict.art.pl
Anakata..............................http://www.anakata.art.pl
ANDESA Soft International..................http://andesa.da.ru
Astral..............................http://astral.scene-hu.com
Astroidea........................http://astroidea.scene-hu.com
AtomiK....................................http://atomik.ini.hu
Bomb..................................http://bomb.planet-d.net
BlaBla..............................http://blabla.planet-d.net
Blasphemy..............................http://www.blasphemy.dk
Byterapers.....................http://www.byterapers.scene.org
Calodox.................................http://www.calodox.org
Chrome..............................http://chrome.scene-hu.com
CoPro.....................................http://www.copro.org
Damage...................................http://come.to/damage
Dance...................................http://dance.flipp.net
Defacto 2..............................http://www.defacto2.net
Dolops......................... ........http://dolOps.scene.hu
Exceed...........................http://www.inf.bme.hu/~exceed
Fobia Design...........................http://www.fd.scene.org
GODS...................................http://www.idf.net/gods
Green.....................................http://green.dyns.cx
Grif........................http://arrabonet.gyor.hu/~rattgrif
Haujobb......................................http://haujobb.de
Hellcore............................http://www.hellcore.art.pl
IJSKAST.............................http://www.ijskast.cjb.net
Immortals..............................http://imrt.home.ml.org
Infuse...................................http://www.infuse.org
Just For Fun...........................http://jff.planet-d.net
Kilobite...............................http://kilobite.cjb.net
Kolor................................http://www.kaoz.org/kolor
Kooma.....................................http://www.kooma.com
Label zero.........................http://labelzero.pganet.com
Mandula.........................http://www.inf.bme.hu/~mandula
Monar................ftp://amber.bti.pl/pub/scene/distro/monar
Nextempire..................http://members.xoom.com/NEXTEMPIRE
Ninja Gefilus.........http://www.angelfire.com/or/ninjagefilus
Noice.....................................http://www.noice.org
Orion..............................http://orion.arfstudios.org
Quad........................................http://www.quad.nl
Rage........................................http://www.rage.nu
Replay.......................http://www.shine.scene.org/replay
Retro A.C...........................http://www.retroac.cjb.net
Rhyme................................http://rhyme.scene-hu.com
Skytech team............................http://www.skytech.org
Sunflower.......................http://sunflower.opengl.org.pl
Suspend......................http://www.optimus.wroc.pl/rappid
Tehdas...................................http://come.to/tehdas
Tesko..........................http://www.scentral.demon.co.uk
The Black Lotus.............................http://www.tbl.org
The Digital Artists Wired Nation.http://digitalartists.cjb.net
The Lost Souls...............................http://www.tls.no
TPOLM.....................................http://www.tpolm.com
Trauma.................................http://sauna.net/trauma
Tulou.....................................http://www.tulou.org
T-Rex.....................................http://www.t-rex.org
Unik.....................................http://www.unik.ca.tc
Universe..........................http://universe.planet-d.net
Vantage..................................http://www.vantage.ch


music links:

Aisth.....................................http://www.aisth.com
Aural planet........................http://www.auralplanet.com
Blacktron Music Production...........http://www.d-zign.com/bmp
Chill..........................http://www.bentdesign.com/chill
Chippendales......................http://www.sunpoint.net/~cnd
Chiptune...............................http://www.chiptune.com
Da Jormas................................http://www.jormas.com
Five Musicians.........................http://www.fm.scene.org
Fridge...........................http://www.ssmedion.de/fridge
Goodstuff..........................http://artloop.de/goodstuff
Ignorance.............................http://www.ignorance.org
Intense...........................http://intense.ignorance.org
Jecoute.................................http://jecoute.cjb.net
Kosmic Free Music Foundation.............http://www.kosmic.org
Level-d.................................http://www.level-d.com
Miasmah.............................http://www.miasmah.cjb.net
Milk.......................................http://milk.sgic.fi
Mah Music.............................http://come.to/mah.music
Maniacs of noise...............http://home.worldonline.nl/~mon
MAZ's Sound homepage.............http://www.th-zwickau.de/~maz
Mo'playaz..........................http://ssmedion.de/moplayaz
Mono211.................................http://www.mono211.com
Morbid Minds..............http://www.raveordie.com/morbidminds
Noise................................http://www.noisemusic.org
One Touch Records......................http://otr.planet-d.net
Park..................................http://park.planet-d.net
Radical Rhythms........................http://spaz.com/radical
RBi Music.............................htpp://www.rbi-music.com
Ruff Engine................http://members.xoom.com/ruff_engine
SHR8M......................................http://1st.to/shr8m
Sound Devotion................http://sugarbomb.x2o.net/soundev
Soundstate.........................http://listen.to/soundstate
Sunlikamelo-D...........http://www.error-404.com/sunlikamelo-d
Suspect Records........................http://www.tande.com/sr
Tequila........................http://www.defacto2.net/tequila
Tempo................................http://tempomusic.cjb.net
Theralite...........................http://theralite.avalon.hr
Tokyo Dawn Records........................http://tdr.scene.org
UltraBeat.........................http://www.innerverse.com/ub
Vibrants................................http://www.vibrants.dk
Wiremaniacs.........................http://www.wiremaniacs.com


people:

3d addict...................http://users.cybercity.dk/~bcc5877
Anders Akerheden...............http://hem.passagen.se/andersak
Ari..............................http://www.primenet.com/~arie
Attack..............................http://attack.planet-d.net
Balrog.........................http://www.mds.mdh.se/~mek98adl
Carlos..............................http://www.nexus.hu/carlos
Cosmic..............................http://www.myweb.de/cosmic
!Cube......................http://www.cs.helsinki.fi/~tlonnber
Cyclone..................................http://zap.to/cyclone
Dave.............................http://www.come.to/davecorner
DaVinci.................................http://davinci.ice.org
Echo................................http://www.kki.net.pl/echo
Exocet..........................http://jff.planet-d.net/exocet
Flan.............................http://www.error-404.com/flan
Gardner................................http://www.gardner.z.pl
Grabule........................http://members.xoom.com/grabule
Hunz............................http://www.globec.com.au/~hunz
HP........................................http://hp.pardey.org
Immortal Rat................................http://ir.scene.hu
Inferno............................http://inferno.planet-d.net
Jean Nine....................................http://j9.cjb.net
Jimsendu............................http://home.sol.no/ojakobs
Jupiter....................http://members.xoom.com/JupiterCode
Lazur....................................http://lazur.punkt.pl
Leviathan....................http://www.ews.uiuc.edu/~ajcarlso
Los........................http://www.angelfire.com/in/miku305
Mephisto.............................http://www.chez.com/shiva
Mystical................................http://www.mystical.dk
Nekrite.....................................http://move.to/ap0
Nico....................................http://geecs.org/~nico
Nino...................http://www.saunalahti.fi/~kuusnie/tapsa
Nitro...................ftp://ftp.scene.hu/Artists/music/Nitro
Nogsf..............................http://www.saers.com/~nogsf
Pow.................................http://home.sol.no/~tskara
P-rat...................................http://www.subphase.de
Rents................................http://newdigital.tsx.org
Rez.................................http://reeeeez.citeweb.net
Rod.................................http://www.inf.bme.hu/~rod
Scorpik............................http://scorpik.planet-d.net
Shodan...............................http://shodan.skytech.org
Skal..................................http://skal.planet-d.net
Skaven..........................http://isis.yok.utu.fi/~skaven
Smash.............................http://jecoute.cjb.net/smash
Sol..................................http://www.icon.fi/~solar
Spell.........................http://www.ThePentagon.com/Spell
Splif..............................http://splif.aegis-corp.org
Szoke......................................http://szoke.ini.hu
TheREW..............................http://home.wxs.nl/~therew
Traven..............................http://traven.planet-d.net
TS................................http://www2.hawaii.edu/~myee
Tuo.....................................http://tuo.skytech.org
Unlock...........................http://www.profzone.ch/unlock
Velikani.............................http://ltk.hut.fi/~akiuru
Vivid..................................http://vivid.kosmic.org
Wain.............http://zevs.ifi.ntnu.no/~frankwer/gfx/gfx.htm
Warder...............................http://www.dlc.fi/~warder
Willbe...................................http://willbe.cjb.net
Xcene...................................http://xcene.flipp.net
Yannis...........................http://www.zip.com.au/~yannis
Zden....................................http://message.sk/zden


diskmag and charts:

Amber...............................http://amber.bti.pl/di_mag
Amnesia...............http://amnesia-dist.future.easyspace.com
Demojournal....................http://demojournal.planet-d.net
Doose charts...............................http://www.doose.dk
Dragon......................http://www.wasp.w3.pl/pages/dragon
Fleur................................http://fleur.scene-hu.com
Heroin...................................http://www.heroin.net
Hugi........................http://home.pages.de/~hugidownload
Pain..................................http://pain.planet-d.net
Scenial...........................http://www.scenial.scene.org
Scenet....................................http://www.scenet.de
Static Line......................http://www.ic.l7.net/statline
Sunray..............................http://sunray.planet-d.net
Total Disaster...................http://www.totaldisaster.w.pl
TUHB.......................................http://www.tuhb.org
WildMag...........................http://www.wildmag.notrix.de


general:

Arf!Studios..........................http://www.arfstudios.org
#coders..................................http://coderz.cjb.net
Calodox demolinks exchange.....http://calodox.planet-d.net/cde
Comic Pirates.........................http://scene-central.com
Demo fanclub........................http://jerware.org/fanclub
Demoscene.org news forum..............http://www.demoscene.org
Digital Undergrounds.....................http://dug.iscool.net
Dreams2 CD.........................http://nl.scene.org/dreams2
Freax...................http://freax.scene-hu.com/mainmenu.htm
GfxZone............................http://gfxzone.planet-d.net
Hugi size-compo...............http://home.pages.de/~hugi-compo
Orange Juice.........................http://ojuice.citeweb.net
PC-demos explained.....http://www.oldskool.org/demos/explained
#pixel..................................http://pixel.scene.org
Swiss List.................http://www.profzone.ch/vantage/list
Swiss Scene Server.......................http://www.chscene.ch
TakeOver................................http://www.takeover.nl
Textmode Demo Archive.................http://tmda.planet-d.net
Hungarian scene page...................http://www.scene-hu.com
Zen of Tracking.........................http://surf.to/the-imm


archive:

ACiD2 Archive.............................ftp://acid2.stack.nl
Amber.......................................ftp://amber.bti.pl
Cyberbox.....................................ftp://cyberbox.de
Flerp.....................................ftp://flerp.scene.hu
Scene.org..................................ftp://ftp.scene.org
Skynet archive.................ftp://acid2.stack.nl/pub/skynet
Trebel...................................http://www.trebel.org


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