-* MeLLoW *- (4) HokuSPokuS (4) -* MeLLoW *- Page: / Page: / microknight Code : Rayon Main Editor : Sane Main Graphics : Huib Main Music : Aquafresh Page: / >>> <<< >>> <<< !!! World Charts !!! !!! Dutch Charts !!! Coders Graphicians Musicians Swappers Groups ProductS Voters For This World Chart World VoteSheet > About The WORLD Chart/Votes < Coders Graphicians Musicians Swappers Traders Boards Groups ProductS Voters For This Dutch Chart Dutch VoteSheet <<< The Amiga Scene NEWz -= !Mixed Up! =- -= Critical Towards All =- ThE OlD DutcH ScenE RevieW Da Amiga World News ........... JoinMents/LeftMents ........... Amiga And It's Future? ........ Saturne Party 4 Invitation .... Fortune Cookies ............... AscII's ....................... Cheating ...................... Mail-Thieves?! ................ Violent Games ................. 10 Ways (Pupils) .............. Enkhuizen Scene ............... Jay Miner (Father Of Amiga) ... The Smilie Collection ......... We Killed Commodore ........... Crumb Film Review ............. ..................... Introotje .............. The RAW-Monopoly ................ A Womans Taste ........... Where Whould You Be ... Communicate With The French .. Interview With A French Dude ............... Charts, A MUST! ........... The Great Zine-Poll ................ Monk: Braggers .............. The Fake Of 1995 ............ Madness Of Letters ................. Suffer Or Die ...... The Ultimate Scene Quiz! ................. The Last Tear .............. Review Of Menace <<< -= Dutch Dance Guide =- ** Musix Mania ** - Advertisement (New Update) - -= ^$ E@Mail ?^$?? Internet? $#! =- >>> About HokuSPokuS <<< D DanceGuide Radio Agenda .... D DanceGuide Sep-Dec 1996 .... D DanceGuide Alltime PartieZ . mod.Huib I.D.S By Huib ...... mod.Boozed Out By Krypton ... mod.Jumping J.B By AquaFresh . SwaP Advertisement 1 (New!) .. SwaP Advertisement 2 (New!) .. SwaP Advertisement 3 (New!) .. The InterNet Cafe Add ........ Board Advertisement .......... .. Email Adr. Of Amiga Sceners ... Internet Warez Sites (FTP) ..... Motion Video On Internet >>>> 10 Questions HP? <<<< >>>> About HokuSPokuS 4 <<<< Page: / Decrunching: Page: ./ .. Decrunching: Ready! Page: / <<< >>> 1996 -* MeLLoW *- 1996 Code Stuff : RayoN - MeLLoW. HP Editors : Sane - MeLLoW. RayoN - MeLLoW. Hp Musicians : Aquafresh (Main Music) Huib - MeLLoW. Krypton - MeLLoW. Chart Layout : Huib - MeLLoW. HP IntroGFX : Huib - MeLLoW. Dance Guide : CaSSeOpaYa. To Contact MeLLoW About The HokuSPokuS Write to: RayoN / MeLLoW. OudeVaart 38. 1749CH WarmenHuizen. The Netherlands. Email: rayon@pi.net Thanks To: ---------- Thanks to all the voters who filled in the HokuSPokuS votesheets! Thanks to all people who wrote articles for HP-4. And ofcourse thanks to the musicians who made the nice music, even the musicians who sended modules we didn't use in HP! Thanks to Argon for some ASM routines! Sorry To: --------- Pyxis/Cocain: that i din't use your module agian, but even the new Protracker replay routine couldn't play your module very good. Better luck next time. Greetz! Facet: that i din't use the title picture you drawed for HokuSPokuS! Because the title picture was already spread all around the world! The New HokuSPokuS ???? : ------------------------- In the last issue (HP3) i wrote that the HokuSPokuS will be changed a lot! Well it is, but you can't see it from outside, the source is rewritten for 50%. The only thing you can see what is changed that are the WORLD charts. Wich is not really good enough because of the less vote-sheets we received! And another thing that is changed: HokuSPokuS is now a complete WORLD diskmag. HokuSPokuS Every 2 or 3 Moths?: ------------------------------- Yes, we are trying to release HokuSPokuS every second or third moth. Because with the totally new setup of HokuSPokuS-4 we can release more issues! The only problem is 'how to get lots of VOTESHEETS in time' so everybody SEND THOSE SHEETS!!.... Greetz: ------- I'll make it short.. Greetz to everybody we know! .:RAYON:. 10 Questions About HokuSPokuS?: --------------------------------- 1) Have you ever seen an issue of HokuSPokuS? ------------------------------------------ A> Yes, 1 or 2 issues. B> Yes, more issues. C> No. 2) Do you like HokuSPokuS? ----------------------- A> Yes. B> No. C> They get better and better. 3) Do you think HP's are released frequent enough? ----------------------------------------------- A> Yes. B> No. 4) Was it a good move of HP to introduce worldcharts next to the dutch charts? ------------------------------------- A> Yes. B> No. 5) Whould you rather have a HP-release every second month with the same layout as every 1/2 year with different layouts? -------------------------------------------------------------- A> Yes. B> No. 6) Do you think HP has enough good articles? ----------------------------------------- A> Yes. B> No. 7) Have you ever supported HP with either articles,news,adverts or votes? -------------------------------------- A> Yes. B> No. 8) Do you value the chart-results of HP? ------------------------------------- A> Yes. B> No. 9) Do you like the gfx and music used in HP? ----------------------------------------- A> Yes. B> No. C> It's not bad ... ... 10) Please name 1 or 2 people who wrote articles in a HP: ----------------------------------------------------- A> ... B> ... Note: There is a question sheet on the disk wich you can use. Please send your filled sheet to: Sane Pieter V/D Horst Korte Tuinstraat 32 1601 CJ EnkHuizen The Netherlands Motion Video On The Internet With JAVA! ----------------------------------------- For everyone who likes some java motion video on the internet just check the WebCam sometimes. This homepage playing motion video all the day! The producers of this site are doing this for as a service for their company, and ofcourse this is all done by : Silicon Graphics. The desingers of the motion video are very enthousiastic, and trying new things. They began with motion video size 1.5x.1.5 CM and now they have 2.5x3.0 CM. With a 28k8 connect you are able to receive 10 frames a second!!! When everybody has ISDN they can handle more frames and bigger video presentation. Till we can receive full screen fullmotion video! The URL of the site is: http://ff.vin.nl Somtimes the WebCam is on tour! For example this summer they were in CANNES france at a big party, Sport events, and view from the headquarters in HoofdDorp / Holland. Enjoy the WeBCam! .:RAYON:. Here are some ftp sites, with some warez on it! ----------------------------------------------- Sites marked with a "@" are good. # @ # - BomB2 -> :ftp.nortel.net/pub/kerr site # @ # - xx_ -> :139.78.114.95 d:warez #003# - xenix_ -> :~139.78.114.95 d:warez #004# - Dig_Logic -> :~131.247.120.10 .cache/.tmp/--- # @ # - Shakez -> :~ftp.nortel.net /pub/kerrisite/.rgd #006# - xchaos -> :143.162.217.217 dgwood pw: 93555 # @ # - Dig_Logic -> :~132.234.11.32 e:/incoming/.cache/.logfile #008# - Shakez -> :~204.183.147.33 /skynet/files l:mwarren p:shadow # @ # - ||o|| -> :free.org:/users4/r/ror9 5 l:ror95 p:y0uw1sh #010# - ||o|| -> :free.org:/users4/r/ror9 5 l:ror95 p:y0uw1sh # @ # - merlyn -> :204.96.13.10 pub/incoming/.^F^A^T^E/..(10 spaces) #012# - Addicted -> :bowash.mcm.housing.w ashington.edu p:nerf l:leia # @ # - _dMaN -> :132.234.11.32 /incoming/.cache/.logfile # @ # - xchaos_ -> :143.162.217.217 user: dgwwod pw: 93555 /pub/ # @ # - _armadilo -> :~128.102.92.11 /files/april-drafts/test/dk/bios/_ #016# - SLoV -> :ftp.nortel.net/pub/kerrs ite/^[[rgd #017# - Duracel| -> :~ftp.fishnet.net /incoming/argh...deleters/warez # @ # - SpiNNeR -> :bentley.univnorthco.e du /incoming #019# - Wyvern_ -> :free.org l:ror95 p:y0uw1sh #020# - asl2 -> :crippled.dorknet.com l:moron p:freshone #020# - asl2 -> :crippled.dorknet.com l:moron p:freshone # @ # - damack -> :ftp.fagg.uni-lj.si /pub/this will be erased!/ (WC ][ site) #022# - Manson666 -> :193.127.21.2 /pub/in.coming/ #023# - DRaKoN -> :naic.nasa.gov /files/april-drafts/test/dk/bios/_ #024# - FLiZZo -> :131.247.120.10 /.cache/.tmp/---/.Appz/ #025# - Addicted -> :ftp.nortel.net/pub/k errsite/^[[rgd #026# - BeLcH -> :~131.247.120.10 C:PUBLIC.cache.tmp--- #027# - Hmm -> :131.247.120.10 /.cache/.tmp/---/.Appz/ #028# - Hmm -> :131.247.120.10 /.cache/.tmp/---/.Appz/ #029# - Addicted -> :ftp.nortel.net/pub/k errsite/^[[rgd #030# - DRaKoN -> :143.162.217.217 l:dgwood P:93555 /pub #031# - XyKo -> :204.120.6.2 /pub/eudora/ ./.RGD/ End of the list! DRaKoN posted >032<::204.120.6.2 /pub/eudora/./.RGD/ DRaKoN posted >033<::204.120.6.2 /pub/eudora/./.RGD/ Lot's Of Email Adresses Of AMIGA Sceners! ----------------------------------------- 243 - Absolute! * Royal * Nut'n'bolt quantum@supacom.brisnet.org.au A's - Sway robert.pohl@mailbox.swipnet.se Acid - Alpha Flight & Grotesticle acid@norconnect.no Aerosoul pete@rhein-neckar.netsurf.de Act - Outlaws johanvdb@innet.be Arctangent - ex ACC arctngnt@mcs.net Archmage - Andromeda hr101@york.ac.uk Akiro - Scoopex + Vanity + DCS akiro@kontu.bbs.fi Alien - Vd of FLT sami.arola@utu.fi Allah - Parallax, Insane, Fresh allas@lyseo.otol.fi Allanon - Depth 2eka5@meldal.vgs.no Alta - ex-Rbs, ex-Tsl carl@funcom.com Andraax The Mad - DarkSide oivinds@studserv.osir.hihm.no Anorganic - Promise deutschg@rs3.szif.hu Antibyte - Scoopex e9225794@stud1.tuwien.ac.at or Andy - Banal Projects andy@kauhajoki.fi ankujanp@freenet.hut.fi Antibrain - Bizarre Arts antibrain@people-x.people.de Argon - Extend tastikai@kruuna.helsinki.fi Artifex - Complex henrijl@evitech.fi or complex@hut.fi Aryan - Dive dcm216@public.decam.se Astro - CNCD ,Movement, VD, Lemon. cvschie@xs4all.nl Atx - Anarchy (PC), Shock pszi@e-franka.isk.huninet.hu Axe - Nerve Axis danaxe@danaxe.tcp.co.uk Axl - ex Polaris tsehtl@deh.srce.hr Azazel - TBL azazel@orion.boden.se Azure - Artwork & Bizarre Arts Azure@people-x.people.de Babbage babbage@babnet.foobar.co.uk or babbage@dmu.ac.uk Baby - Mad Elks FG@ETCA.FR Baffle! - Honey & Abuse & SidCrew torst@ifi.uio.no Bandog - Parallax tommiih@evitech.fi Bannasoft - Melon johan@daimi.aau.dk Big-Rat - Ethic bigrat@fub46.zedat.fu-berlin.de Bjorn a. Lynne bjorn@team17.demon.co.uk Blade - Bomb Squad blade@icon.fi or naked_sun@anon.penet.fi Blast - Energy blast@tna.nullnet.fi Blitter - X-Trader thomas.froelich@uibk.ac.at Blue Water - Parallax sininen@xgw5.xgw.fi Bobo - Mystic bobo@everyday.se Boogeyman - Passion dm95126@dec51.tietgen.dk Boogeyman - Gigatron daniel@sirius.medio.mh.se Boheme - Bomb Squad^Abuse asjohans@helsinki.fi Braindead - Scoopex braindead@tombstone.fipnet.fi Brooker - HMC halloran@sci.muni.cz Case - CnCd mphuhtam@kruuna.helsinki.fi Celebrandil - Phenomena celle@aristotle.algonet.se or marten_bjorkman@mentorg.com Cesium - Session fe@stud.hivolda.no Chaos chaos@blackbox.shnet.org Chaos - Facet's Pussy/Desire chaos@bactower.berlinet.de Chaotic - ATLANTIS/[N*P] chaotic@online.fire.dbn.dinet.com or CHAOTIC@BLACKBOX.shnet.org Chip - Powerline chip@toaster.joy.se Christopher - Scoopex (DK) cdcurry@diku.dk Chrombacher - Obscene jcn93@elev.vasa.se Chucky - Virtual chucky@kd.qd.se Citruz - Royal citruz.daniel@mbox200.swipnet.se Cluster - Insane cluster@canit.se Cobra - Maniacs S.J.Atkinson@plymouth.ac.uk Codex - Extend terop@modeemi.cs.tut.fi Codex - Steroid homay@ludens.elte.hu Colorbird - ex-Razor1911 Johan@Funcom.no Control - Trsi anweyert@jurs1.jura.uni-osnabrueck.de Cork - Poro Productions cork@freenet.hut.fi Conqueror - C^Z e5peter@etek.chalmers.se Count Zero - Damage count@phoenix.oulu.fi Crash - Nerve Axis crash@crash.tcp.co.uk Crash - Polka Brothers CrashPolka@aol.com or Crash@Blackbox.shnet.org Crew^one - Myth pilon@cs.utwente.nl Crom - Extend crom@freenet.hut.fi Croquik - Dreamdealers clevy@ie2.u-psud.fr Cyclone - Illusion cyclone@glenz.prima.ruhr.de Cygnus - Solo samk@clark.net D-fekt - Destiny erik.drakenberg@voxnadalen.ovanaker.se d-Orb - Sepultura j.l.gomez-dans@sheffield.ac.uk Da Jormas jormas@trancentral.slip.jyu.fi Dan - Lemon. dan@nlights.demon.co.uk Daeron - Stellar alaukka@voimax.voima.jkl.fi Dalamar - DreamCharts Ed, Cor Scand dalamar@mailbox.sh.hik.se Damion - Artwork * Generation ed * damion@paradise.fire.dbn.dinet.com Danaxe - Nerve Axis danaxe@danaxe.tcp.co.uk Dansken - Access dansken@sdf.luth.se Dark Angel - 976 Ev!l T.R.Stubbs-94@student.lut.ac.uk Darkman - Triumph nilsco@ifi.uio.no Debug - Parallax jussis@sci.fi Decca - Lego decca@people-x.people.de or decca@aol.com Decoder - Widespread and Maniacs p.nilsen@warlord.bbs.no Deadbeat - The Sharks deadbeat@iwn.fi or deadbeat@freenet.hut.fi Del - Lemon del@nlights.demon.co.uk Decoy - Banana Dezign stianol@ifi.uio.no Decoy - Passion dat95b10@mini01.vejlees.dk Der Hm - Complex msaline@vipunen.hut.fi or complex@hut.fi Destop - CNCD destop@hybrid.org or Destop@hybrid.kaapeli.fi or Destop@satumaa.l16.www.fi Dexter - Abyss 100.17637@germanynet.de Dexter - Abyss m.wodok@link-m.muc.de DDT - Accession lennu@cute.fi Diablo - Myth, Roadhogz, Vsg, Acc diablonl@xs4all.nl Diesel8 - Razor 1911 s94matjo@und.ida.liu.se Dip - Lustrones mdipieri@dsi.unive.it Dire - Eremation nicolai@cip1.ikp.uni-bonn.de Disney - ex-Alcatraz & Sanity farin@sbox.tu-graz.ac.at Dizzy - CNCD kujanpaa@kruuna.helsinki.fi or jtkujanp@itu.cc.jyu.fi Djiby - Nova desnoues@email.enst.fr Dodger - Essence dodger@canta.gun.de Dominator - Corrosion domin8r@galeb.etf.bg.ac.yu or domin8r@crshq.crsn.com Dope - Spaceballs ux006940@tfarn.nl Dozig - Damage dozig@otitsun.oulu.fi Dr.Acid - Extend dracid@freenet.hut.fi Dr.Awesome - Crusaders bjorn@team17.com Dr.Ice - Lisence kaarej@barentsnett.no Dr.Jekyll - Andromeda svik@adh.no Dr.Robotnik - Movement u950318@daimi.aau.dk Dr.Skull - Virtual Dreams skull@freenet.hut.fi or skull@icon.fi Dreamer - Independent dreamer@zumzum.tky.hut.fi Dreamweaver - Aurora dreamer@aristotle.algonet.se D.s.x Design - Trsi dsx@ger.com Duce - Extend duce@vskol.fi Duncan - Damones chili@freenet.hut.fi Dweezil - Complex(PC) and CNCD marks@evitech.fi Easy Rider - Mystic abfri@blue.maloka.waw.pl Echo - Lsd echo@stevect.demon.co.uk Echo - Fci sq3dzk@ampr-gate.netvision.net.il or sq3dzk@gw.ab6qv.ampr.org Ed - Exotic Men trinne@cs.joensuu.fi Electric - Extend electric@freenet.hut.fi Elf - Banana Dezign al33572@labs1.cc.etf.hr Elliott - Reality elliott@xs1.xs4all.nl Encore - Spoon richard.ehlers@star.ct.se Equalizer - The Black Lotus d94dha@tex9.hfb.se Ern0 - Absolute! zalkae@rs3.szif.hu Eracore - Rebels and Suburban ek@academy.bastad.se Evrimson - Shining 8 a2630486@hpa1.Uni-Koeln.de Exalt - Antic Exalt@nevermind.ct.se Exodus - Ott se2pt@dmu.ac.uk Explorer - Three Little Elks ts@olympia.ct.se Facet - Lemon. martijn.vanmeel@kmt.hku.nl Fary - Intensity bagj@labor.obuda.kando.hu Fashion - Ram Jam fashion@fishtwn2.han.de or l11e@alf.zfn.uni-bremen.de Fate - 100% fxmts205@rz.uni-frankfurt.de Fester - Absolute! * cULT^sH mained hallo1723@osiris.elte.hu Fish - Lsd fish@stevect.demon.co.uk Flame - Pygmy Projects flame@stekt.oulu.fi Flex - Frame 18 kopacsi@rs3.szif.hu Fli7e - Sceptic^Haujobb^N-Joy^Contra fli7e@liteline.mcnet.de Fourth Horseman bhslrc@mcs.com Fotze - Damones tatiala@ratol.fi Fraction - CNCD jhuuskone@snakemail.hut.fi Franky - Purple Turtle Peter.Smets@ping.be Freecaller - Royal oleg.khimich@bbs.tenet.odessa.ua Fuzz - Trsi fuzz@norconnect.no Fuzzy - Death Row fzy@hoa.ping.dk Gandalf - Phantasm gandalf@blackbox.shnet.org or iukfs@tu-harburg.d400.de Gerdin - Ctrl H k152351@proffa.cc.tut.fi Gizmo - TBL d95mha@t.hfb.se Godfather - FUN ah765@freenet.hamilton.on.ca Green-Beret - Mystic, SAD fpirl@iol.ie Groo - CNCD groo@freenet.hut.fi Guru - Sahara Surfers p153737@cc.tut.fi Haralampie - Gilette haralamp@osmeh.fon.bg.ac.yu Hardbyte - Mystic hardbyte@xs4all.nl Haze - Epsilon jdm@europa.com HeatBeat - CNCD aamikkon@freenet.hut.fi Heikki Pora pora@lut.fi Hellraiser - FUN u9408669@muss.cis.mcmaster.ca Hexorcist - Almagest sherberg@norconnect.no Hijack - Parallax & Arclite & Insane rt3097@bessel.tutech.fi Hilander - Euphoria alex@nexus.net Hoffi - Quartex+Damones+Palace hoffi@dream.imagew.fi Hollywood - Axis + Valhalla (PC) s.m.carless@dur.ac.uk Hoot - Duplo oskar@academy.bastad.se Hornet - Alcatraz amalek@di.epfl.ch Hst-Bullah - HDC sysop tphst@bsd.rotol.fi Howard - Mental Diseases havard@mail.stud.ingok.hitos.no Humanoid - Embassy apjhamal@cc.helsinki.fi Hydra - Andromeda okarlsen@krs.hia.no Hydra - Insane & DD author hydra@freenet.hut.fi or hydra@pato.vaala.fi Hydra - LSD dominicc@macmillan.co.uk I-GO - Mdma blahh@xs4all.nl Illusion - Dylem & Accession illusion@logic.helvetica.ch Immortal - Freezers geszymcz@cyf-kr.edu.pl Index - Stellar aijas@paju.oulu.fi Indian - Tribal kivi@cd.chalmers.s Infusion - Corrosion inf@eunet.yu Interphase interphase@universal.nl Insider - Defekt insider@spybox.shnet.org or stoetzer@rz.uni-ilmenau.de Inqu - Stellar alehtine@lut.fi Intruder - Myth af666@freenet.hsc.colorado.edu Inu-pappa - Inu-Soft inupap@freenet.hut.fi Invoker - Maniacs jannilse@stud.unit.no Isaac - Banana Dezign isaac@redleaf.bbs.no Iso - Axis christiaan.unck@student-kmt.hku.nl It - Independent sindre@sn.no Izi - Impact izi@hoa.ping.dk Jack - Mirage pullens@cs.utwente.nl Jah - Gigatron kp95nks@kp.hgs.se Jam & Spoon - Nerve Axis kristjs@rhi.hi.is Jazz - Haujobb jazz@haujobb.dinet.de Jean - Abs! jean@labor.obuda.kando.hu Jedi - Hoodlum, Rebels, SWAT, Shape hanspet@oslonett.no Jesse - TBL d94jenan@knatte.ostrabo.uddevalla.se Jester - Pygmy Projects tripp@uni-muenster.de JHL - Complex jhl@niksula.hut.fi or complex@hut.fi Jmagic - Complex japehe@kanto.cc.jyu.fi Jobbo - Spaceballs 9361441j@udcf.gla.ac.uk Johnny Turbo - Digital Access John.Bus@syd.dcet.csiro.au Johnpeel - Desire sjalo@138ppc20.tutech.fi or j153545@proffac.tut.fi Joker - Tulou Petter_Wallin@nhs.se Jon - Crimson Jihad simon@tancs.isk.huninet.hu Jormas Fan Club jormas@slip.jyu.fi Jozz - DCS O.Doughty@plymouth.ac.uk Jugi - Complex jusaka@jyu.fi Juliet - CnCd jtrasane@vipunen.hut.fi Kalikone - Dylem alain@logic.helvetica.ch Karpow - Scoopex karpow@kauhajoki.fi Kata - Balance jgr@doc.ic.ac.uk Ken - The Black Lotus ec94keek@vdg.malung.se Kerberos - Virtual Dreams Kerberos@Icon.Fi Killit - Void/Cybertek j.smith@shu.ac.uk Killjoy - Banana Dezign roya@rol.bbs.no Killraven - Mystic klr@xs4all.nl Kingpin - Spaceballs kingpin@sn.no Klorathy - Ram Jam martin@etxkm.ericsson.se Knight - Extend y93smimi@it2.kotakk.fi Korbatz - Venture venture@felix.univ.szczecin.pl Kris - Rebels kris@young.ege.edu.tr Kryptonite - Inhumans krave@ihug.co.nz Kube - CNCD kube@cute.fi Lawnmover man - Mystic lawnmower_man@hardbox.gun.de Legend - Parallax legend@tolsun.oulu.fi or legend@avalon.merikoski.fi Lithium - Eltech lithium@dcandy.demon.co.uk Lizard - Spaceballs Lizard@netpower.no or magnar@hsr.no or lizard@bigblue.no Lizardking - Razor 1911 & Triton (PC) lizardking@triton.cs.se Looby - Insane andersw@canit.se Lord - Absolute!^Impulse^CJ lord@goliat.eik.bme.hu Lord Helmet - Spaceballs boerge@gribb.hsr.no Loy - Crimson Jihad loy@goliat.eik.bme.hu Mac - Stellar kikkis@klinja.fipnet.fi or mikoivis@eden.fipnet.fi Macno - Abnormalia faini@dsi.unimi.it Madbart - Appendix 2:481/22.10-fidonet and 52:4800/3.7-globalnet Mad Druid - Powerline druid.powerline@goteborg.mail.telia.com Majkel - Venture maykel@felix.univ.szczecin.pl Maksiu - Venture maksiu@safona.mech.tuniv.szczecin.pl Mars - NahKolor & Mystic mars@panda.bg.univ.gda.pl or mars@superlink.net Marx - Insane marx@canit.se MaTT - ex-Scandal T.Ernst@ping.de Maverick - Independent bizzetti@mbox.vol.it Maw weichsel@uniwa.uwa.edu.au Maxime - TheSpookyFellows max@ing.univaq.it Meegosh - The Movement jkavalef@alpha.hut.fi or jkavalef@delta.hut.fi Melan - Astroidea *Scenest'96 party* melan@dlux.sch.bme.hu Meltdown - Delon. homay@ludens.elte.hu Mentor - R.N.O mentor@dcandy.demon.co.uk Mercenary - Extend jsiitone@niksula.hut.fi Merlin - Sonik mikkokn@evitech.fi Meson - Nerve Axis gary@batesg.demon.co.uk Metal - Insane metal@canit.se Metal - Parallax stschuma@freenet.hut.fi Metal Maniac - Dcs (C64) etxmaip@acat10.ericsson.se or etxmaip@nrk.ericsson.se or mm@algonet.se Mfn - Facet's Pussy/Dsr, Smb!, s!k hansfl@powertech.no Mic Flair - Eltech^Aquarius mICfLAiR@dcandy.demon.co.uk MicroPal - Alcatraz werner@uit-or3.unit.no Mike - Dcs mikael.koark@mailbox.swipnet.se Mike - Mystic mikaila@freenet.hut.fi or mike@sik.ppoy.fi Mindshadow - Foundation msd@p9.nevermind.ct.se Mistral - Parallax sima@mimas.otol.fi Moby - Sanity + NoOon (PC) dumas@enserb.ubordeaux.fr or fmotte@mindscape.com MoOd - Limited Edition moOd@abc.se MOP - Essence mop@maltanet.omnes.ne or Noel.Baldacchino@f60.n520.z2.fidonet.org Motion - Balance lund@hoa.ping.dk Motiv8 svenworm@europeonline.com Mount - Polka Bros. Tage.Majland@djh.dk Mr.C - Almagesy fhaugen@norconnect.no Mr.Hyde - Andromeda slunoe-n@adh.no or sverrelu@ifi.uio.no or slunoe-n@krs.hiagder.no Mr.Pixel - Impulse pixel@bme.zpok.hu Mr.Spiv - Complex jikorhon@cc.helsinki.fi MSK - Tragedy keyngnae@CS.kuleuven.ac.be Muad'Dib - Mystic/Royal/Crazy^Acid muaddib@xs4all.nl Mub - LSD mub@stevect.demon.co.uk Mucsi - Muffbusters peter@netwizards.net Murk - Sonik Clique an942400@shsibm.shh.fi Musashi - Union ^ Absolute! gwroblew@panamint.ict.pwr.wroc.pl Mystra - Technology Kpeders@krs.hia.no Napoleon - ex-Dreamdealers earnaud@club-internet.fr Nemesis1 aaj@rhi.hi.is Neurodancer - Abyss neurodancer@another.gun.de Nexus - Magic c93torni@und.ida.liu.se Noah - ex-Lemon. morten@funcom.no Noah - Royal^Factor per.lindahl@mbox2.swipnet.se Nik - Axis njh@ukc.ac.uk Nimrod - Raw Staff sk@nvg.unit.no Nose - Stellar jsaarinen@kone.fipnet.fi Nosferatu - Offence geirsk@ifi.uio.no Obligator - Dcs mkolsi@lut.fi Offa - TBL d94m@blg.du.se Odie - X-Trade ei944@el.haninge.kth.se Orbis - Extend pora@lut.fi Orc - Destination Zero PILAT@frpdnov.utcpd.sk Oriens - Les Shadock kohlerc@esiee.fr Oriol osp@tinet.fut.es Orlingo - Divine Stylers^Stoer&Nut. orlingo@trans.xs4all.nl Otis - Dream4 Music perseus@xs4all.nl pAIThAN - dEPTh^SIDcREW paithan@interlink.no Papaj g.taffi@fastnet.it Parsec - BioSynthetic Design parsec@linux.infosquare.it Patko - Reality hrvoje.zlatar@public.srce.hr Patrician - The Jormas tphst@bsd.rotol.fi Pazza - Lsd pazza@stevect.demon.co.uk Peace bruehwilers@ubaclu.unibas.ch Peachy - Masque + !Haujobb! peachy@inf-ga.uni-paderborn.de Pearl - Passion serup@rg.dk Perplex - Offence larshaug@ifi.uio.no Petroff - Absolute! ecobit@mail.datanet.hu Phideaux! - SRH greatsargon@delphi.com Pink - Abyss Manfred.Linzner@munich.netsurf.de Pirat - Phase Distrortion pirat@aexent.paradise.sub.org Pogi - Crimson Jihad pogi@goliat.eik.bme.hu Poko - Lamer Crew plosz@agy.bgytf.hu Posdnuos - TheSpookyFellows argati@univaq.it Pot-Noodle - Anthrox leo.davidson@keble.oxford.ac.uk Powdihacker - Ambrosia 2:238/53.9@fidonet Pride - Talent (PC), Twisted PRIDE@dk-online.dk Prime Premium - CNCD prime@dream.imagew.fi Probe - VD of Fairlight probe@academy.bastad.se Prophet - Wizzcat prophet@wizzcat.prima.ruhr.de or jgeorg00@marvin.informatik.uni-dortmund.de Proton - Complex proton@kontu.bbs.fi or complex@hut.fi Psionic - Steps of Change tmascord@mail.telecall.co.uk Psycho - The Black Lotus ec93erda@bergslagsskolan.karlskoga.se Psycho - XTD'IPL'THG psycho@syscon.co.at Pyth0n - ex-TPDL jacekska@zeus.polsl.gliwice.pl Qen - Honey qen@uno.canit.se RaatoMestari - The Jormas raato@direktor.voima.jkl.fi Rack - Absolute! zalkae@rs3.szif.hu Rahiem - Essence, R.O.M rahiem@essence.dinet.de Rainbow - Chromance sygma@bull.jozsef.kando.hu Ralph - Spectre slundoe@krs.hia.no Ranx - Balance dag@odin.funcom.no Rasta - Ultra Sonix rasta@paradise.worldlink.com.au Ratleto - SIDcREW toratle@hai.hiMolde.no Ratman ratman@alpha1.obuda.kando.hu Rayon - MeLLoW rayon@pi.net or v962583@si.hhs.nl RazorBlade - Balance ir.Vestheim@osir.hihm.no Raw Style - Lego rawstyle@online.fire.dbn.dinet.com Red Devil - DCS rob@edensoft.demon.co.uk Redlight - Dreamdealers llaubin@soleil.dir.univ-rouen.fr Reebok - Surprise! (PC) reebok@eleet.iddc.via.at Ren - Depth dage@barentsnett.no Reverend D - Trespass BBS jimmyh@algonet.se Rendall - Impulse fgm73@ursus.bke.hu Repe^Ransu - Scoopex & RRR karvakuo@klinja.fipnet.fi Reward - Complex Sami.Vanhatalo@hut.fi Rickz - Divine Stylers rk@bastad.se Robin - Steroid robin@csomavax.csoma.elte.hu Rodney - Art'n Magic and Axis deen@algonet.se Roland - Balance Roland@Compart.fi Rubberduck - TBL d93jde@t.hfb.se Rune - Talent rchg@nvg.unit.no S.m.m smyr@algonet.se Saracen - Talent arstokke@sn.no Saviour - Complex saviour@freenet.hut.fi Scope - Balance bergsoe4@pipmail.dknet.dk or scope@hoa.ping.dk Scorpik - Absolute!, Pulse (PC) longsoft@zalbix.wroc.pl Sector9 - Razor 1911 (PC) kjetilp@ifi.unit.no Sentinel - Unreal sentinel@bonus.fido.hr Serkul - Cydonia kymtosh@smug.student.adelaide.edu.au Shortie - ex-Sonic cm-a.j.kennedy@teesside.ac.uk or CM-A.J.Kennedy@tees.ac.uk Shorty - Spaceballs olavr@ulke.HiMolde.no Siegel- TRSi/X-Innovation siegel@deadline.snafu.de Silk - Digital silk@dcs.warwick.ac.uk Silver Eagle - Pygmy Projects silvere@freenet.hut.fi Simply - Parallax jjuhola@ratol.fi Sir Monkey - Chrome k140734@cs.tut.fi Skull - Eremation sauger@etu.unicaen.fr SkurK - Hoaxers^SIDcREW skurk@interlink.no Slammer - Rednex carsten@funcom.no Smeagol - Triumph carla@ifi.uio.no Smt - Artwork smt@blacky.mcnet.de Snorpax Tudor - TBL d95han@t.hfb.se Solnova - Movement and >(oo)< karsten@funcom.com or karsten@funcom.no Spaceman - Lemon del@nlights.demon.co.uk Spin - Abyss grafp@ruf.uni-freiburg.de Sprocket - Depth madsjm@colargol.idb.hist.no Stelios - Axis stilian2@gfx4.mdx.ac.uk Steve S.J.Atkinson@plymouth.ac.uk STL - Damage andezl@kastelli.otol.fi Stone - Matrix stone@cs.tu-berlin.de Storm - Cydonia storm@ar.ar.com.au Strider - FairLight strider@fairlight.com Stripe - The Party theparty@cybernet.dk Strobo - Stellar nikon@personal.eunet.fi or mint@clinet.fi or nikon@reelart.fi Style - Dylem^Prodigy^Fairlight style@logic.helvetica.ch Sumaleth - Pearl sumaleth@daemon.apana.org.au Supernao - Lemon. supernao@xs1.xs4all.nl Swoop - Rebels rebels@wiz.joy.se Sy-Klone - Progress dn@academy.bastad.se Tactica - Vanity martin@diku.dk TaiPan - Complex taipan@cs.hut.fi or complex@hut.fi Tango - Led & Ptl tango@academy.bastad.se TBB - Extend hilipili@freenet.hut.fi Telemach - Psyba Solutions psyba@iprolink.co.nz Tfa - Mnc Vital@pp.itv.se The Raver - Psx Freaks^Effect PC raver@xs4all.nl The Ripper - Rom Team curzolo@mbox.vol.it Thor - Extend thor@freenet.hut.fi Thoron - Fci thoron@ntp.alli.fi Tiger - Spreadpoint tiger@IDB.tng.oche.de Tim - Spaceballs, Axis timkloos@sci.kun.nl Tom - Hoodlum & Jormas seen@escape.com or squeaky.free.org Tool - Accession tool@verbal.apana.org.au Touchstone - Essence touchstone@access.owl.de Trauma zavodnik@merkur.econ.muni.cz Trendy Dealer - Ram Jam eugenio@freenet.hut.fi Tsunami - VD of Fairlight taila@snakemail.hut.fi U-man - Contra u-man@kd.qd.se Ukulele - Banal Projects mleinone@tetra.ratol.fi Unreal - Pulse (PC) podgorsk@alpha.ok.ae.wroc.pl Uyanik! 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If you want to place your SWAP advertisement in the HokuSPokuS send your ADD to: Rayon / MeLLoW OudeVaart 38 1749 CH WarmenHuizen The Netherlands Email: rayon@pi.net Elke Donderdag in: Club Trance, Eindhoven- Diverse Feesten Elke Vrijdag in: Paradiso, Amsterdam - Diverse Feesten Shiva, Utrecht - Diverse Feesten Xala, Rotterdam - Diverse Feesten Elke zaterdag in: Mazzo, Amsterdam - Love Sex & Motion Doornroosje, Nijmegen - Dance Night Shiva, uttrecht - Diverse Feesten Escape, Amsterdam - Chemistry Xala, Rotterdam - Diverse Feesten Nightown, Rotterdam - Club Nighttown Melkweg, Amsterdam - Dance Arena/TimeMachine WaakzaamHeid, Zaandam - Temple of Thunder Tempel, Den Haag - Temple Power Carmen, Zomeren - Diverse Hardcoreparties Temple of Rebirth Almere - Diverse Hardcoreparties Marcanti, Amsterdam - Eye Town We willen jullie een zo comleet mogelijke agenda geven voor de feesten die gaan komen dus zullen we vaker een agenda uitbrengen...... Made By Casseopaya & Sorcerer Greetings goes out to: Muad'dib, Ice, Stephen King, Sir IQ _ ____________________ ___ _____ _ / \ / / ->PXS<- \ | |___ \ \/ / \ Onder / - \/ ______/ _______ \ | | | \ / - \ Voorbehoud! / _ \ \___ \ ___)__| \| | | \\/ _ \ / | \ | \ o | \ \ | l \\ | \ \___| \ / ; | \ | //__| \ ...l____/_____/________/|____|\____|_______/...l____/ Wij kunnen helaas niet alle feesten vermelden. Dit komt doordat een aantal organisaties de flyers of de informatie niet verstuurt hebben, of de flyers waren op of al die andere smoezen...Maar, degene die als eerste een feest aan ons doorgeeft zal zijn naam speciaal vernoemd worden in de volgende magazine..... - 13-sep-1996 Terror machine on Tour (Hardcore) Place: The Peppermill, Heerlen - 14-Sep-1996 Masters Of Hardcore II (Hardcore) DJ's: Lenny Dee, Ruffneck, Bass D, King Matthew, Gizmo, Darkraver, Darrien kelly, Dano, Norman, Buzz Fuzz, Acts: Rotterdam terror Corps, Bass D, Kingmatthew, Twin terror DJ's Hall 2: Darrien kelly, Lenny Dee, Buzz fuzz, Petrov Francois Place: Fundustry, Hemkade 48, Zaandam Price: Fl 35,00 presale, Fl 45,00 at the door Time: 22.00 till 10.00 - 14-Sep-1996 H.M.C. Party (hardcore, mellow, Classics) DJ's: Panic, Miss Monica, Damion Place: Twilight, Barendrecht. Price: Fl 10,--, ladies after 2.00 Free Time: 21.00 till 4.00 - 14-Sep-1996 Dreams Of Silence (hardcore) DJ's: Darkraver, Gizmo Place: Houtrust-Rotonde, Den Haag - 20-Sep-1996 Thunderdome on Tour (Hardcore) Place: Peppermill, Heerlen - 20-Sep-1996 Terror machine on Tour (Hardcore) Place: The Palace, Groningen - 21-Sep-1996 Thunderdome in Germany (Hardcore) Place: Sport & Congreshalle, Schvverin - 27-Sep-1996 Terror machine on Tour (Hardcore) Place: Carte Blanche, Weert - 04-Okt-1996 Terror machine on Tour (Hardcore) Place: Tagrijn, Hilversum - 05-Okt-1996 ShadowLands (Hardcore, Mellow, Oldstyle) DJ's Hall 1: Ruffneck, Vince, Rob, Abraxas, Panic & tango. DJ's Hall 2: Eddy de Clerq, Joost van Bellen, Trigger & Vince Dj's Hall 3: Rob, Vince, Ernesto, Vincent de clock Place: Beursgebouw, Eindhoven Price: Fl 45,-- presale, Fl 55,-- at the door Time: 18.30 till 4.00 - 05-Okt-1996 Opening MysteryWorld Place: Fundustry Hemkade 48, Zaandam - 11-Okt-1996 Thunderdome On Tour (Hardcore) DJ's: Prophet, Buzz Fuzz, Gizmo, Darkraver, E-rick, Unity & Dione, Weirdo, Lady Dana, X-Eff & Darlo, Uzi & MC Mouth of madness, Delerium, Noiser, Waxweazle DJ team, Promo, System. Acts: Critical Mass, Tails & Noiser, Lorch Of the Underworld, Public Domain, 3 steps ahead, Evil Force, Bass-D & King Mathhew Place: Cargo, Spijkernisse - 12-Okt-1996 Raver's religion...Meer info zie nieuws.. DJ's: Rob, Gizmo, Darkraver, Gizmo, Neophyte, Rob Gee, Darrien Kelly, Jean. Quinten Ronald Molendijk Price: Fl 50,-- Place: MartiniHallen Groningen. - ??-Okt-1996 Thunderdome The Awards Place: Escape, Amsterdam - 23-Okt-1996 Thunderdome on Tour (Hardcore) Place: Luxor, Arnhem - 27-Okt-1996 Thunderdome on Tour (Hardcore) Place: Magic 3, Selm, Germany - 31-Okt-1996 Thunderdome on Tour (Hardcore) Place: Dixies, Brasschaat Germany - 08-Nov-1996 Thunderdome on Tour (Hardcore) Place: Zeigelei Gross Weeden, Germany - 31-Dec-1996 Digital Overdose Place: Jaarbeurs, Utrecht (4 hallen) Deze party is nog niet zeker vastgesteld..meer info later.. Yo feestvarkens in dit amigawereldje....Tha Ultimate is terug...en dit is onze bijdrage voor de HokusPokus......... *************************************************************************** __ ____ ___ _____________________ __| / / _ \| __|_ \ __ o \ / | \ / / \ .\ \ \ \ \____ ; / /. \/ / \ \\ \ .\/\__ \/ _____/ // _ \ \ / // \ \\ / .\ ___)__ _/ | \_\_/ // \ \_ \\_ / \______|_____/____/|_________/_______/______/ ____/\ _ _______ __ ____ /____ \ / \ \____ \ (__) / _ \ / _/ _// - \ | | \| |/ / \ \\ /. \ \/ _ .\| | \\ | / \ \\ // // / | \\ l \\ | \ / // \\ // /\___| \ // |\ \_/ / \_/ \_/ ...l____/______/__| \____/@{UB} Dit zijn alle Houseprogramma's op locale radiozenders Alkmaar: System: 98.2 FM Vrij: 17.00-20.00: Techno met DJ Sim (Simstim) 20.00-21.00: Hardcore met DJ Weirdo & Pila 21.00-00.00: Mellow/Club Zat: 18.00-21.00: Mellow/club 21.00-??.??: Mixen Almere, Airpeace Radio: kabel 91.1 FM, ether 107.8 FM Bussum, Vrij: 19.00-22.00: The friday night X-perience Huizen: Zat: 12.00-14.00: Classic DanceHits 14.00-16.00: Dance met DJ Barry Bouquet 16.00-18.00: Local DanceCharts met DJ Bass D 18.00-20.00: SwingbeatParty met DJ kid MC 20.00-22.00: A&A Mellow Factory met DJ Zion Zon: 12.00-14.00: Sonny BrownShow met clubhits 16.00-18.00: Dj Ronald en Rave Dave 20.00-22.00: A&A Mellow Factory met DJ King Matthew, Bass D en guests 22.00-00.00: A town's most wanted met DJ Soul, Julius Irving, King Matthew, Irie Roy en Ronnie Amersfoort: Jamaica Radio: kabel 105 FM Vrij: 20.00-01.00: Mellow, trance, acid en hakkuh Amsterdam: Radio AFM: kabel 105.6 FM, ether 106.8 FM Ma t/m vrij: 21.00-23.00: Dance Stance met DJ Nathanael, Di. DJ Cellie 23.00-00.00: Ambient Zat: 16.00-20.00: Hakkuh en jungle met DJ Jean, Marc en Michiel Radio 100: ether 98.2 FM Zat: 18.00-19.00: Reality Shift 19.00-23.00: Soulpower met DJ Carlijn 23.00-00.00: Jino (Hour of powerhouse met Gino) Wo: 21.00-22.00: Getto Tone (militante dance met DJ Mickey V.) 22.00-00.00: GrooveYard (housen met DJ Phanthomas, Eva en Fausto) Arnhem: Club Loony Radio: Do: 21.00-01.00: DJ Bart van Liefland en prod. Mark Stolk (DJ Vibe), internationale underground house Boarnsterstim: Ether 105.6 FM, kabel 96.1 FM Vrij: 19.00-20.00: DJ's: Victory, presentatie: Jelmer en Berber Een keer in de maand: hardcore, mellow, trance of een special (iemand uit de housescene be- licht). Verder: houseagenda, interviews en nieuwtjes. Capelle Radio Capelle: kabel 101.6 FM(Capelle), ether 105.3 FM(R'dam) a/d IJssel: Vrij: 22.00-00.00: Shock Therapy (hardcore, trance, club) Zat: 18.00-19.00: Dance Therapy (club) DJ Team Sons of Aliens (Alien & Intruder) Den Haag: Radio Stad Den Haag: 99.4 FM Zat: 20.00-07.00: In de mix, DJ's: Syndrome, Fuckface, Norman, Charly, Dark Raver, Cris, Splinter, etc.+ live opgenomen parties. Zon: 20.00-07.00: Charly back to parkzicht Mindscape, Splinter met party info Delft: Raveland: 104.0 FM Ma t/m vrij: 20.00-20.45: "Live" Tape 20.45-21.30: DJ Snikkel 21.30-22.45: DJ G.H.D. 22.45-23.00: DJ Dynamite, only hardcore/gabber Eindhoven: Dance Mania: kabel 94.4 FM, ether 106.3 FM Ma: 21.00-00.00: Rave en hardcore, DJ's: Tom Aarts, Marc & Oniz Te ontvangen in de regio Eindhoven, Nuenen, Geldrop, Mierlo en Heeze Elburg: Clubwave: kabel 90.9 FM, ether 105,5 FM Di: 20.00-21.00: Club tot happy hardcore. Met: locaal jongeren info, Clubwave entertainment news, de Loe FM, Dancewave floorfiller en DJ Jan Prins 21.00-22.00: Gabbermix, party info, Clubwave releases info Dance NRG: Zat: 21.00-23.00: Hiphop, mellow, trance, happy hardcore en DJ Paul Jansen. Met overzicht Dance top 40, nieuwe clubreleases, clubmix Denekamp: RDL: kabel 87.5 FM, ether 105.6 FM Vrij: 22.00-00.00: Motter met DJ Stevie & Roberto. (jungle,trance, club, hardcore, ambient, techno, rave) Haarlem: Radio Haarlem: ether 105.1 FM, kabel 94.0 FM Vrij t/m zon: 22.00-01.00: Club 105 met vaste DJ's: Godard(Waakzaamh.), Rooi & Derik(De Hoeve), Marnada CLUB 87.5: kabel 87.5 FM Don: 22.00-01.00: Hardclub/trance Vrij: 22.00-01.00: Garage/soul Zat: 22.00-01.00: Happy club/uptempo DJ's: Paul Holt, Rene Kint, Alex Versteeg en gast DJ's als Godard, Roy, Marnada en Joost van Bellen. Heerenveen: Heerenveense Omroepstichting: kabel 96.1 FM, ether 107.7 FM Vrij: 21.00-22.00: Rave FM/mellow 22.00-23.00: Rave FM/hardcore Zat: 17.00-18.00: Power Hour/dance Heemskerk: Radio Heemskerk: kabel 105.8 FM, ether 107.4 FM Vrij: 23.00-00.00: Houseline met DJ Edwin Tan en Zamiel (Gabber, breakbeat, trance). Gast DJ's als Weirdo, Jordens, Trime, Lay-on, Requez, Pandora en Lyt-nin. Incl.gabbermix en party info. Hanzenstad: Stadsradio Hanzenstad-Danceclub 79.2: ether 97.2 FM Vrij: 18.00-00.00: DJ's: Richard van de Bos, Wim v/d Horst, gast DJ's mixing. Hoorn: Radio Hoorn: ether 105.8 FM Zon: 20.00-22.00: Wildgroei met DJ Promo-hardcore, gabber en vele prijzen zoals 12" en kaarten voor parties 22.00-00.00: Wildgroei met DJ Danny-trance, ambient, mellow, jungle Leerdam: RTOL Radio: Leerdam-ether 107.6 FM, kabel 106.6 FM Zederick-ether 107.2 FM, kabel 106.6 FM Lingewaal-ether 104.9 FM, kabel 107.0 FM Wo: 20.00-21.30: RTOL Power Hour met DJ Fred Reijnders en party agenda Leiden: Nextgroove Modern Dance Magazine: kabel 88.1 FM, ether 105.7/ 107.7 FM. Vrij: 22.00-24.00: Gast DJ's als 100% Isis, Marcello, Ronald Molendijk, interviews. Muiden, Radio Space: kabel 103.3 FM, ether 105.8 FM Muiderberg, Zat: 18.00-20.00: Rave Invaders met DJ Snow & The Whiteraver Bussum, Happycore, mellow, trance, techno, club, Naarden, jungle, updates, dance top 10 en tips. Almere: Kampen: OmroepStichting IJsselmond: kabel 102.4 FM(IJsselmuiden 101.5 FM), ether 106.4 FM Wo: 19.00-20.00: Dance Explosion 20.00-21.00: House Nation met DJ Doc Maassluis, DanceMania: ether 107.8 FM, - Maassluis 89.5 FM, - Vlaardingen Vlaardingen 96.1 FM, kabel TV kanaal 4 Vrij: 22.00-00.00: DJ's: Maarten & Dennis. House, trance, techno, gastmixers en thuisprodukties. Nijmegen: Radio Rataplan: 102.5 FM Zat: 20.00-21.00: Boccacio, serious techno van hardcore tot ambient. Samenwerking met Frankfurt Beat Prod. Pekela: Omroep Pekela: ether 107.3 FM, kabel 105.5 FM Zat: 17.00-18.00: Klein maar fijn met DJ Pascal Klein Raamsdonkveer: Rave FM: ether 105.1 FM, kabel 94.1 FM Don: 19.00-20.00: Bonanza met DJ MVT & Wizzard-trance, techno, hardcore, hardtrance, info over parties, special, recensies, energy drinks en gossip. Rotterdam: StadsRadio Rotterdam: 94.6 FM Vrij: 21.00-00.00: Planet E met Erik Kross en Michel de Heij. Laatste uur gast-DJ. 00.00-02.00: Midtown Top 50, happy hardcore met Erwin v/d Bliek 02.00-06.00: The Afterparty, non-stop mix van gast-DJ's (geen hardcore) Dance FM: 93.9 FM Ma t/m vrij: 16.00-21.00: Dance FM Zat: 16.00-20.00: Dance FM Rave FM Zat: 20.00-24.00: Rave FM Studio West IJsselmonde: 107.1 FM Zat: 19.00-21.30: Hitland met DJ Peter Gelderblom (mellow) 21.30-00.00: Pompei hardcore party met DJ Panic Waddinxveen: RTW Radio: ether 105.8 FM, kabel 87.9 FM Zat: 19.00-22.00: Hitfront danceable, club 20.00-21.00: Hitfront danceable, gabber 21.00-22.00: Hitfront danceable, dance West-Friesland: WestFriesland Radio: ether 103.9 FM, kabel 89.0 FM Te ontvangen van Den Helder tot Zaandam Zat: 21.00-23.00: Low Frequency Radio, de beste hardcore Zoetermeer: Club Underground: 92.9 FM Vrij: 21.00-22.00: Post-Neo Disco Extravaganza (geen gabber), DJ's Yosh en Olaf. Radio Loco: ether 107.8 FM, kabel 104.6 FM Zat: 19.30-20.30: Locomotion 20.30-21.00: Locomotion-Dance, mellow tot hardcore Westland: W.O.S. Radio: kabel 93.1 FM, ether 107.4 FM Don: 19.00-20.00: Mellow/club met DJ Ronald en Alex 20.00-22.00: Hardcore/gabber met DJ Ronald en Alex L.T.V. Radio: ether 107.9 FM, kabel 88.0 FM Vrij: 22.00-24.00: Trance, techno, club met DJ's Bert de Rooy, Matthew van der Steen, gast-DJ's en live optre- den. Zandvoort: ZFM 107: ether 106.9 FM, kabel 105.0 FM Vrij: 20.00-00.00: Bass Power Music met party info, nieuws over de scene en DJ Ski Tussen 22.00-23.00 mixen met gast-DJ's Radio 538: Zat: 19:00-22:00: Van Diepen's NowDanceDepartment Zon: 18.00-21.00: Dance Top 40 met Niels Hoogland Radio 3: Zon: 00.00-06.00: Chemistry on 3-live mellow Zon: 22.00-00.00: Dance Tracks met Hanno Dik New Dance Radio: bel voor kabelfrequenties 06-300585 Dance/mellow/hardcore 24 hours a day Zo dit waren alle bekende house programma's op locale radiozenders. Als ik wat vergeten ben geef het dan please even door.... * The -Menace-/Desire -review! * In issue 2 of Hokus Pokus I started to review older Dutch products which top this chart. I called it "over-reviewing" them. The reason for doing that was to tell you all out there how the productions were actually like and giving some nice information about them. I wanted to to do that because I thought, and still think, that a lot of people have forgotten how the productions were exactly like and some of you might have even never seen these productions. In issue 2 I reviewed "Can't be" of Vision and in issue 3 I did "Unknown Territory" by Axis. Because I like traditions I will review another piece of art of the Dutch history again in this issue, number 4! Menace by Desire will the subject of this issues review! This great production was on the number two spot in all the previous issues (1,2 and 3) !! A good reason to review this cool demo, I think! It was 1992 and not announced Desire brought their coolest production ever! Some people may say that "Evolution" of Desire is a better demo but "Menace" certainly was the coolest and most enjoyable piece of the group! Desire claims "Menace" was an intro and they announce the production as an intro in the ascii-text! This is a very clever move! People will think more highly of your production when it is a huge intro as when it is a small demo! Above all "Menace" could get into the intro-entries of the charts of that time! Anyway, what ever Desire may say; "Menace" is a one-file demo and no one will disagree with me ... .. A lot of people were surprised by the release of "Menace". Guy Frost, the coder of "Menace", was inactive in 1992 and nobody expected a demo from him. Also Desire as a whole spend more time on packs and little intro's as on cool one-file demo's. But suddenly "Menace" was there and the Dutch scene witnessed one of the few highlights of it's history (Can't be, Unkown Territory, Menace, Our Nation, Big Time, Evolution). In 1992 the house scene was peaking and almost everybody liked the still cool house musics, therefore it was no surprise that "Menace" was a house-style demo! After you load the one-file-demo the first thing you hear is one of the best songs made by a Dutch musician. Fabian/Desire made the cool house tune. We hear the cut version in "Menace" but after being cut it still is a great song to listen to. The demo starts off with a white bright screen. Then a fantastic Desire logo appears on the screen. Bip, the Belgian artist, made this logo. Guy frost coded a cool routine to show the gfx. The same routine is used for the credits. He uses lines which flow over your screen, when those lines reach their place it becomes a square and the gfx or credits appear in that square. It isn't hard to code this effect but it sure looks pretty! You have to see it yourself when you want to know how it really looks like, it is difficult to tell. Next is a Menace logo created by Zorlac, the brother of the famous Desire-pack maker Daze. This logo is also very neath. Desire used their three best artists (Fabian, Bip, Zorlac) on Menace, that's for sure! Then we get some nice plasma-effects which appear on the rhytm of the music. You see some sinelines and then another sort of plasma. It's all very colourfull. The screen flashes from white to black and from black to white all the time. Some vectors come and move on the sound of little beeps. It goes all very fast and it is difficult to tell you everything. Things appear and disappear again and come back on the screen after a while. For example vecorflags of all the country-divisions : Holland, Belgium, Germany and Norway. More vecors are on the screen and then a serie of pattern-pictures are shown. The pictures move on the rhytm of the tune and when the music stops the pattern picture of a feet against a basedrum stops too! very cool. More pattern pictures of dancing people come and go. Guy Frost shows variation and he shows a lot. You don't have to look a long time at the same effect and that's what makes it a cool demo. The effects are not new but they look cool especially because of the variation and the rhytm. Of course the Mail and Modem adresses are shown too! When the musics stops for a second you see the word "Stop" on the screen, then the demo continues again. The best part, in my opinion starts when the music becomes absolutely superb! You hear a great house piano-tune while the basedrumm keeps beating! It really sounds great. When the piano is being played, you see the piano-keys displayed on the screen. You see the key which is touched (as in the tune). The colours of the keys vary from red to blue. During this effect the keys turn upside down and at a certain time they even start to flow on the rhytm of the music. Very cool! This really is the best part. The pattern pics of the dancing people appear again. Now the are flashing. Also the vectors come back. The second part looks like a re-run of the part before the piano appeared. This is a pitty. Maybe Guy Frost could have coded some more (other) vectors. Anyway the demo is still nice to watch to. The music becomes slower and slower and you see "Oh No" on the screen and then "It's The" .... You hear a sound each time a word comes up. Finally the sentence is completed with a gfx saying "the End". A whole new music starts to play, this music is very slow compared to the first one but also very, very enjoyable. Fabian also made this second music, so no wonder it is a cool tune! On the screen is a down-up-scroller showing us the credits. We already knew them but now we also know who made the second music, as said before : "Fabian". The credits also tell us that "Betasp and Killraven" designed the demo. (?) Aragorn is credited because he did one routine. Then some rather dull texts from Bip roll over your monitor. Bip is better in French as in English, but who cares? He is a great gfx-artist, and in his words : "Graffiti style rules!". All in all, Desire made a great demo and "Menace" is one of the highlights of the Dutch scene. People seem to remember it because "Menace" is highly recomended in the Hokus Pokus charts. I can only end this review by thanking Desire for their great effort to make the scene more enjoyable, especially with "Menace"! Desire : Rest in Peace! Sane The LaSt TeAR ... The last tear has been cried, the last drop of sweat has been sweat, the last word has been said, the last line has been written, the koEk is Op'; in short: This CoRnEr is finished! Most people try hard, some even try HarDer .... and I .... I don't try at all. I don't want to try, I don't have to try. Because everything I want is to enjoy MySelve. And to do that ... I don't have to try, 'cause I am easily enjoyed. When other sceners share some of that joy, I am just glad, it's not the basis .... and it shouldn't be. When you succeed in trying hard ... that's where you fail. Some sceners see things as they are and ask 'Why?' ... I dream things as they never were and say 'Why not?'. I really hope to enjoy a lot of people but it's enough to enjoy only a few ... it's enough to enjoy only one .... and it's enough to merely enjoy Myselve. Fun is the basis of everything, friendship his best mate, success only a silent partner and arrogancy his worst enemy. Before we get into the deep pools of poetry, into the whirlpools of words, into .... I want to say that the goal of -SanE- (-YouR CoMpUtEr fRieND-) is just bringing some fun into this chaotic scene! Of course my goal is to reach as many sceners as possible ... but if not ... then it's just too bad. I just didn't try enough. And that's how it should be. Because this article is getting rather poetic anyway and because I like to make clear that the 'Nature-related-Articles' I write are very important for me (-sAnE-), I will exit this article by writing down a poem which I wrote in 1993 as a dedication to NatuRe .... -Dedication to Nature- You give me so much love, but also pain. Because what you give is what I gain. I can breathe because you provide me with air. I can live because you care. You do so much for me and I make a mess. What I give in return is a lot less. I destroy what you've created in billions of years. I destroy and you cry bitter tears. Ozonelayer, greenhouse effect and acid rain, your last effort to restore the world is in vain. It seems like we just don't care, people who do are very rare. It's because we're humans, the facts are sad: We think we're o so smart, but in reality -WE'RE BRAINDEAD!- -= Sane =- -The UltImaTe SceNe QuIz!- God knows I (sAnE) like traditionS. And I would also like to make a tradition of my ScEnE-QuiZ. Therefore I am back again with another quiZ. This one is slightly different from the tWo I did before. (I made a quiz for Houkus Pokus/Mellow issue 3 and I made one for Trinity, the article release 2/MonK.) This QuiZ is namely not an Old Dutch scene quiz, but an old WorlD scene-quiz!! It's all very simple. You just answer my multiple choice questions as best as you can. Then you check the answers and count your score. Finaly, you read the results which match your score. Your result can be from totall loser to absolute topper. Have fun! -The questionS- 1-Which group made one of the best demo's ever called 'Mental Hangover'? A Razor 1911 B Scoopex C Red Sector inc. D Phenomena (Easy. But important to know, therefore 6 points.) 2-Who did the code for 'Mental Hangover'? A Slayer B The Spy C Azatoth D Dan (Nasty, therefore 7 points!) 3-Who made the gfx for 'Mental Hangover'? A Uncle Tom B Danny C J.O.E D Reward (7 points, but easy!) 4-Last question about 'Mental Hangover'! Who did the music for this great peace of History? A Reward B SLL C Uncle Tom D Tip + Mantronix (5 points.) 5-'Enigma', a great trackloader, but which group produced this one? A Phenomena B Kefrens C Razor 1911 D Anarchy (A real 'Giveaway' so only 2 points!) 6-Who made the music for 'Enigma'? A Firefox + Tip B Mantronix + Tip C Tip D Firefox + Mantronix (Difficult! 5 points.) 7-A graphician who was not a member of the group which produced 'Enigma', did the gfx for this trackloader anyway. Who was he and what was HIS group? A Uno/Phenomena B Uno/Scoopex C Peachy/TRSI D Uno/TRSI (Hmmmm .... 4 points!) 8-In which year was 'Enigma' made? A 1992 B 1989 C 1991 D 1990 (Years are always difficult. So 6 points!) 9-Analog made a nice megademo called 'Analogia' with a nice intro about the third World War. When you reset that megademo something strange happens, what? A Nothing B Music starts to play C A picture appears D A fractal appears and music starts to play (What an easy one but still 3 points!) 10-The Old Kefrens made a nice demo called 'Powermunker, The Thunderchild part II'. Which 3 members made this glorious demo? A SLL, RWO, Laxity B Icronite, Milshake, Nightlite C SLL, RWO, The Merge D Icronite, RWO, Zeus (3 points.) 11-In which year was 'Powermunker' (see 10) produced by Kefrens? A 1990 B 1991 C 1989 D 1990/1991 (As said before: years are always difficult! 4 points!) 12-'Hardwired' is the glorious result of the coop of Silents and Crionics. Who were the coders? A The Spy and Deftronic B Murphy and Saxs C Guzzler and Deftronic D All the above coders (Yep! Quite hard. 5 points!) 13-Desire made the 'Anti-Junkfoof-demo', why? A Because the didn't like fried food. B Because Junkfood/RAF called them lamers in 'ICE'. C They had no reason. D Because Junkfood/Axis called them lamers in 'ICE'. (For Dutch people easy to answer, for foreigners quite hard, therefore 8 points!) 14-Who coded the 'Total Destruction' demo of Crionics in 1990? A Deftronic + The Spy B The Spy C Deftronic D Slayer (Easy, peacie lemon squeezy! 4 points.) 15-Who made the gfx for the slideshow of Mirage called 'Forgotten'? A Facet B Blo C Danny D Hein (3 points.) 16-'DOS' and 'Mindriot' are productions of ..... A Axis B Andromeda C Anarchy D Alcatraz (Not hard at all so .. 2 points.) 17-'Mirror' was produced by Andromeda, what was it? A Demo B Trackdemo C Intro D Musicdisk (4 points.) 18-Of course you remember the great prods of Spaceballs, 'State of the Art' and '9 fingers'. But Spaceballs got their fame with a sooner production. What was the name of that prod? A Dayfarer B Wayfarer C Waybringer D State of XTC (6 points because it is a hard question.) 19-Anarchy released a glorious musicdisk called 'Legalise it' and later the sequal of it. Who were the men behind this project? A Dan, Nuke and Seen B Dan, Heatbeat, Nuke C Facet and Dan D Facet, Dan, Nuke (1 point for this 'give away'!) 20-Cougar + Havok (gfx), Jester (music) and Chaos (code) of Sanity made the musicdisk (with a superb introduction!!) 'Jesterday'. When was it released? A Easter 1992 B The Party 1993 C X-mas 1993 D X-mas 1992 (Ooooohah, very difficult! 10 points!) 21-Who made the gfx for 'Ray of Hope 2' by Majic 12? A Havok/Sanity B Facet/Anarchy C Rack/Majic 12 D Peachy/TRSI (Hmmm... what to think of this one? 5 points.) 22-What made Brainstorm's musicdisk 'Musicland' unusual? A Rob Rose did the code B Axel did the music C It had a message in it as a reaction on RAW issue 4. D It had a message in it as a reaction on RAW issue 3. (3 points) 23-Who made the gfx for 'Musicland' of Brainstorm? A only ripped gfx featured this one. B Oli C Tin D Oli + Tin (okay, okay 7 points.) 24-Who did the code for 'We Shave Ass' of Razor 1911. A Colorbird B Hammer C Odeon D all of the above coders (3 points) 25-Performer, Walt and Static made the Melon Design demo called 'Human Target' and introduced a new innovative style which was highly appreaciated by the sceners! In what year did they do that? A 1992 B 1991 C 1990 D 1993 (Only 2 points!) 26-Who made the titlepicture for 'How to skin a cat' by Melon Design? A Solnova B Seen C Paleface D Walt (4 points) 27-'Gastric Ulcer' is a house-musicdisk made by who? A Sonic B Anarchy C The Special Brothers D Axis (oops! 6 points!) 28 This last question is especially for the vicious Swedish Viking Pontus! Which group produced 'Optical Illusions'? A Septic B Sceptic C Septik D Skeptic (Because this last question was just made for fun, you can only earn 1 point!) -ThE AnSweRS AnD PoiNtS- 1 B 6p 2 A 7p 3 D 7p 4 C 5p 5 A 2p 6 A 5p 7 B 4p 8 C 6p 9 D 3p 10 B 3p 11 D 4p 12 D 5p 13 B 8p 14 A 4p 15 C 3p 16 B 2p 17 D 4p 18 B 6p 19 D 1p 20 A 10p 21 C 5p 22 C 3p 23 D 7p 24 D 3p 25 A 2p 26 A 4p 27 A 6p 28 A 1p -ThE ReSuLtS!!- 0-42 points! Haha! A scener? You?!!! Hahahahahahaha!! You are a poor excuse of a scener. You know next to nothing about the scene, especially the old-scene. When you claim to be in the scene, you are a just a liar. My girlfriend, who saw less than 10 prods can get a higher score as you. Try to remember the answers by hart and answer the questions again, maybe you can get a higher score this way. Well, without kidding. Your score is really poor and that's a fact. That's a sad fact because also the History of the scene is very important. History is the basis of a good scene. You should really have some more interest in your hobby ............... 43-84 points! Hmmm.... quite a good score actually. I guess you are in the scene for a while but not too long. You still know some facts about the old ECS-scene and that is good because after all it was the foundation of the AGA-scene! Try to watch some older productions again and you will notice that your score will increase. Try and do your best at another quiz of Sane/Monk in the near future! Good luck! 85-126 points! Wow!! You are a real scener! You are the ones we do it for. You remember the old hero's and legends of the past. Scoopex, Anarchy and Kefrens. You know them all and you love them! You are in the scene for at least 3 a 4 years or you learned the facts from friends or from diskmags. It doesn't matter because you just know a lot about the scene and especially th old ECS-scene. Great! Well done and watch out for another quiz! You are the true ultimate scener!! 127 and up points! Cheater!! You can only earn 126 points maximum! You are a cheater or your just bad with numbers!!! I dunno what's worse .......... ........ ...... Saney of Monkey was your hostey!! Oops A, B, C, D Sane of Monk was the one and did it for free! (and that makes a rhyme!!) Make an appointment with Death! This article gives you a few ways to make an end to your miserable life on the planet Earth which is bound to die... Luxory-diseases as AIDS, Cancer and Heart-diseases strike around you everyday. The ozone-layer is getting thinner every minute, killing-Ultra violet light is spoiling your brains, radio active energy is causing cancer, your weekly amount of beer, vodka, Martini and Smirnoff makes your liver swell untill it finaly bursts and your daily joint causes lung-cancer.... Why should you wait untill Death has time for you to come and get you, to free you from your chains called : 'Life on Earth'. Why should you wait till Death will fetch you .... Make an appointment with him now!! Follow my advice! 1.Join the Servian army and tell them you come from Kroatia. 2.Stand on the Free-way with a plate around your neck wich says: 'Hit me!!' 3.Go to Loch Ness, shout the monster does not excist, hope it does and bites your head of. 4.Put your mouth on the exhaust pipe of a truck and tell the driver to give gass! 5.Cut your wrists, hope you die. If not, hope you get a blood transfusion which contains the HIV-virus. 6.Sell your soul to Satan, hope he comes to get you. 7.Go to your kitchen, hope there is a big gass-leak, lit a match. 8.Sit in bath with your hairdryer still in the powersocket, drop the hairdryer. 9.Go to a serial-killer, tell him he is Sane. (Sane?! I am Not! a serial killr! Or am I?) 10.Clip your suspenders/braces on the back of a train and wait till it starts to ride. The front of the train is also possible, you do need braces then. (try a Tres Grand Vitesse for eccellent result!) Again 10 ways to make end your life (check out magbox 3 for ten other ways! A loooooong time ago!) There is no need to thank me, I tried all 10 ways but I failed ... I am immortal!! Wouha! Sane. Ps: Some of you may wonder, why this article is in the CornEr 'CritiCal towards AlL'. Well ... I wrote this article after seeing a 2 and a half hour lasting TV-program on the 'Discovery-channel' about our nature, what is left of it and what we do to restore it. I became so desperate and depressive that I wanted to die .................. And that just because a lot of my fellow-human beings are doing idiotic things! By writing this article I wanted to be crIticAl towards them! -The letters-means-this-and-that-maddness!- Some time ago the so-called leading diskmags RAW and ROM started to tell us, smart sceners, what their letters RAW and ROM stand for. RAW started this madness and gave us some really nice answers. RAW for example claimed that RAW meant : -Read And Write or -Random Article Writer Then in the second issue of their mag, ROM expanded the madness and gave us some explicit dull and childish examples, such as -Read Oral Magazines -Respect Of Memory -Really Ordinary Motherfuckers -Rewarding Ortographical Masterpeace And the list went on and on and on ... Because I *SanE* am always happy to cheer along with the crowd and always walk only two steps behind the rest, I could not let this madness pass just like that. Of course I wanted to take part and show you how -oRgInAl- I can be (NoT!). To start off with MONK, Of course this name has nothing to do with a religion whatso ever and -there is no need to be religious!-. This name just means: -Mysterious Orthodox Neo Kaos And the name of MonK's graphician, CHIRON means: -Colourmaster He (is) Innovative (a) Relief (for) Our Nation As you probably already knew SNAPCAP, the name of the great Monk-coder stands for: -Super Neat And Praised, Cool Amiga Prophet REACT, the swapper and Ascii-artist, means of course: -Rules Every Ascii-artist Creates Topstuff And VICIOUS, the Swedish musician annex coder and great friend of mine: -Viking Inspired (by the) Cold Intrigueing, Original, Unusual Sweden Last but certainly not least SANE, your CoMpUtEr-FrIeNd, means: -Superb And Neat Editor So, that was all! I am extremely glad that I also ran with the other clans. I know now that I belong to the leading persons who begin this madnesses all the time! And I am soooooooooooo glad about that! I really hope I will stop being original from now on because when you stop thinking about cool and innovative things .... that's the point were you are taken in by the Elite Sceners! WOW! How great! Well, what else is there to be done than exiting this article in a unoriginal way? A big wet kiss from your Superb And Neat Editor (a bit too original maybe? Well I'll keep practising!) Doewie .... Keep in mind :'Fun rules the Scene!' -ThE FaKe of ThE YeaR 1995- Half a year ago -back in 1995- the scene was enlightened, or should I write -InFeCtEd-, with a new group called 'Divas'. As the name already reveals this group has only got female-members. This is ' .... the only all-girl group in the Amiga scene ...' as the maker(s) claim. Great, you may think. But .... not for real. What are the -SaD- facts behind this group? For starters the group is possibly not all-girl and most likely consists of one (or two) GuY(s) only! But lets not get ahead of the facts. What happened? First of all the group 'Divas' released an intro, a fairly short one, it was simply called 'Divas' just like the name of the supposedly all-girl groups name. Esther was responsible for the code, Tanja did the gfx and Cindy was responsible for the music, on top of that Cindy also did some swapping. .... At least ... that's what the intro said! Because what was the first thing React of -MonK- noticed when he saw this intro? He saw an address which was supposedly Cindy's addy but what was the -new- address of *Infant* of ex-Desire/ex-Essence . Infant (his real name is Rene) had moved from Huizen to Almere and his new addy in Almere was the exact same address as the one of Cindy of Divas!! A coincendence or what!? When React told me what he had discovered he also sent me the intro of divas and on top of that the second intro of divas called 'Divas2'!!!! This intro was as short as the first one but was made a few weeks after the first one was released. That intro claimed that 'Handles are for little boys!', at least that was what a a text-effect in the intro said. The scrolltext in this intro said that Divas had gained a new female member called Cathy and she had done the gfx for this one together with the already familiar Tanja. The scroller also let us know that the response on the call of Cindy for contacts was -HuGe-. No less than 48 packages had reached Cindy in less than a few weeks. If that is true (at least one thing is true then!!) then a lot of sceners seem to buy this crap of an all-girl group. And that's a shame because in my opinion 'Divas' is just a bunch of bullshit and as real as the first soap-opera on your telly! Some months after the second release, Diva's brought a third intro to the scene. This intro was AGA-only(!) and was coded by Celtic (Niels) of Axis (according to insiders). This intro was made by Diva's because they wanted to introduce a new member again. This member was called 'Mopette', and they showed a photo of this new girl-member. The viewer saw a fat and ugly bald woman called 'Sugar Lee Hooper'. The woman is known in Holland because she sings rather stupid songs. Anyway, of course 'Mopette' refers to the well-known editor 'Mop'. He made the fault of claiming to be swapping with Cindy, and even wanting to be a member of Diva's. The people behind Diva's taught him a lesson! There are only 2 explanations Cindy can have for having the same addy as Infants new address. 1-She is Infants sister 2- Infant = Cindy (and Ester, Cathy and Tanja!) I know that the second explanation is the right one and I don't like it a bit. You may say that is childish of me because Divas is not hurting anybody by doing this but I think they do hurt scene-life. First of all some people will write to Infant believing they contact a girl, this is not good for the scene's attitude. Practises as this make the scene hostile. Secondly people will start voting for divas just because it is an all-girl group. The fact that divas produces crap and aren't female in the first place doesn't matter for most voters. Other hard working groups suffer because of this. I just hope people will forget divas and I wanna say to Infant: 'I haven't written down your address and your last name. Please quit with the bullshit (I know you make other fake productions aswell.) Because of people like you the scene gets more hostile and eventually becomes too less enjoyable to participate! Thanks!' The third intro (the Mopette intro) was rather funny and pretty cool, but anyway the basis of the Diva's-project is not good because of the above reasons. I really think they should stop or tell the truth. Maybe you out there say I am a bore but I really think I did good to dedicate some words to the matter. I also hope this affair will belong to the world of dreams and past-present by the time you read this. Sane (Do not Behave like a snakE and FakE!, BUt Behave like a MaN and belong to the SceNe ClaN!) MonK - BraggerS ?! Monk. What has to be said? We (Me!) bragged a lot. Especially about TrinIty, our diskmag. And the only excuse I can give you is that we really wanted to bring a lot of good stuff. We were really busy with cool productions and the ideas were there. Of course there is no good excuse. You should not brag before you actually do something and we in Monk (especially me) bragged a lot before we did a single thing! The only reason for that is that the idea for f.e. 'Trinity' (our diskmag) was created back in 1994 and was improved throughout 1995. We were busy with it for a long time already and keeping your mouth shut for 2 years is though! When, I repeat when, Trinity would have got a first real issue, the scene would surely have been surprised. We could have become big. But, here I go again, we should not have spoken about it because it could go wrong, and it did! We in Monk got older and had new things to do. Jay One (Chiron) got a job and worked hard, Snapcap got a job in the UK and moved from Holland. Vicious also got a job and lost his code-inspiration (after 6 years!). Later on Jay One (Chiron) also bought a PC and spend more and more time on that computer. Besides that my girlfriend and Jay One's girl got a lot of our valuable time (because we wanted to give that time, NOT because they demanded it! (Hi draatje)). It just didn't work anymore. When one person had time to spend on the Scene, others had no time. We said, time and time again, to eachother and to other sceners, 'Yes! We will bring Trinity eventually. And a lot of other good prods too, of course!!', but in the back of our heads we all knew it would not come to an end. Our prods would not be created. We just didn't have the guts to speak out loud. And the bragging went on .... Al right, what I want to say is that it was not bad to be in Monk and it was no disapointment for us because we all knew what was going to happen but .... We never should have bragged about something. That's the fault we made and there is no excuse for it. We even released an 'intro to Trinity', which was good but a stupid move to do. With that intro we raised the expectations of Trinity and already then we knew Trinity would possible die before a first real issue was brought to you! Hmmmm .. .... Trinity will most likely not be released and Monk will most likely die before the end of the year. How sad. I always said 'Monk' would be my last scene-adventure but after I realised how much fun I got from the scene I thought about how sad it is that the scene is getting sicker and sicker. I wanted to do something and therefore I created this CorNeR. This CorNeR will really be my last adventure. When this idea dies like all the others it will be the end. (Maybe you will not even read this, just like the aprox. 50 articles I wrote for Trinity issue 1!) Anyway, Monk has been judged critically too because we did something which disabled the scene a litle bit too. And that's a bad move and we are sorry for that! Sane The Great Zine poll! Because Chester and Orlando of Brainstorm acted so ultimately lame in RAW issue 4 (see the interview), we of SRC (Sane's Research Center) wanted to know what you really thought about Zine and it's editors! Sorry about the delay, (we spend almost 3 and 1/2 year on this research!!) but the Great Zine poll was the biggest poll ever held! Over 5000 (!) people answerred the questions SRC asked and this are the final results: (p means 'percent') 1 - Do you know where Zine stands for? A. Zymotic infected nazi elfs -90 p B. don't know -09 p C. a great diskmag -01 p Comments : 90 percent of the people thought Zine was an abreviation of Zymotic infected nazi elfs. We of SRC think those people are right. 09 percent didn't know what Zine was, 'Never heard the word before..' most of them said. 01 percent thought it was a great mag, they must have a bad sense of humor or they are braindead. 2 - Do you know who are the editors of Zine? A. Hitler and Stalin -11 p B. Chesty and Borelando -80 p C. Zine? What is Zine? -09 p Comments : 11 percent thought Hitler and Stalin were the editors, those peole are 2 generations behind! The good answer was namely B, Chesty and Borelando, the grand- children of Hitler and Stalin. 3 - Which group produced Zine? A. Braindead -50 p B. Brainstorm -00 p C. Brainhurricane -50 p Comments : We do not know the right answer! After we spread the poll, we rethought about it and came up with Brainblizzard....? 4 - Would you like to give Chesty and Borelando a ...? A. Pullitzer price -01 p B. A smack in the face -97 p C. Chesty?! Borelando?! Is Borelando a city in Florida?! -02 p Comments : 97 percent was right. The 01 percent must be braindead or a big fan of those guys... (Is that possible?!?!) No comment on the 02 percent! 5 - Which is the best intro ever made on Amiga? A. Zine -99 p B. Substance -01 p C. intro?! -00 p Comments : We do not understand the 99 percent, we always thought Zine was a demo with a big scrolltext .... Well it is obvious SRC gave them too much credit!! Only 01 percent chose Substance! Zine is one of the first intro's which has beaten Substance! Congrats Chesty and Borelando! Last words - We tried to be as objective as possible. We want to thank the 5001 people who participated, we will print the names in the next edition of this corner called 'Critical towards all'. (?!?!?! N.O.T!) Message to Chesty and Borelando: You are the most popular intro-makers!!! Aren't you glad, now! You owe the credit, you made the scene as friendly as it is now! (P.U.K.E!!!) signed, SRC. Charts, a must! A long time ago Crusaders provided us with a unique thing called "Charts". Of course taken from real life and converted to our miniature world called scene, yet one of the best ideas ever. All sceners liked it immidiately and started to vote. Charts became one of the foundations of the scene. And we have to face the facts : The scene can not live without charts. Just like diskmags, Charts have proven to be just as needfull for the scene as for example trackdemo's. Charts are one of three pillars of the scene. The scene consists of three pillars, namely 1.Demonstrations (e.g Trackmo's, Slideshows, musicdisks) 2.Diskmagazines 3.Charts When you take away the Charts you will disable the scene-foundation and everything will colapse. Charts are a must! With the delay of the most official chart, "The Eurochart" brought to us by Static Bytes, people begin to panic. And because the second best chart "The charts" by RamJam is also dead chaos is all around ... The scene really needs a new official chart which will gain all respect and confidence of the sceners. (In my opinion "ShowTime" could be that chart!) I talked with some people about charts and not one single person said they didn't care and didn't really need a chart. The fact that several people are writing articles about the matter and are virtually louding the alarmbell, says enough. Something has to be done. Even when Static Bytes bring us issue 28 of their well-respected and beloved chart, which I seriously doubt. And even when they continue their list of charts, which I doubt even more seriously!, confidence will be down the drain. "The cookies are eaten" as we say here in Holland (de koek is op!), a new chart has to be born and another (new) group has to conceive it! Who will be the father? Who will be the mother? Does somebody dare to stand tall? Most likely some other group with a HUGE reputation will grab the rudder and provide another Official Eurochart to gain the Crusaders-fame. After some issues they get tired and the same shit will happen again. Over and over again. Or even more likely; one of the big mags (RAW&ROM) will include a chartpart (like Anarchy did in Stolen Data). What we will have then is a chart as a counterpart of something, namely a diskmag. Instead of the chart as the hardcore with a diskmag as a counterpart. That second option is even worse than the first one. The true aspect of charts (that is Being a chart!) will be neglected then. No.... those options are NoT the ways to solve our problem. In my opinion the only way to create a good, everlasting chart is when a fairly unknown group with has no HuGE reputation yet makes it. Such a group gives the scene no high expectations and has the opportunity to do as good as they can. Such a group has no other main-jobs in the scene (such as creating time-consuming trackmo's ) and can therefore spend all their time and energy on the chart. But who am I? I have no reputation and I am as good as unknown. Sane (Who knows: Maybe Hokus Pokus can grow up and become the new World-Chart! Mellow took a big step in converting the chart into both a Dutch- and a World-Chart!) Interview with Tal/S!P Q=Sane A=Tal Q- Hello TaL. Please introduce yourself to our readers. A- Hallo Sane! My name is Tal i'm the main organiser of the French section of Surprise! Productions. and i'm also cosysop on Ordinary Madness BBS. I'm 23 years old, i live in France the country of your favorite friend Mr. Chirac He! He! Q- Please tell us your scene-history. A- Pwew! back up head-file is coming up........... It all began on C64 in a small group called 'Red Vision' swapping games. It was in 1986. Then in 1988 i put steps in Atari ST scene on a friends machine but it wasn't so great as the Amiga scene! I finaly bought an amazing A500 which was the Rolls Royce of computers at da time :) People surely remember the bloody war VS Commodore & Atari-ri! :) I ran around swapping during diz time, then in 1989 i joined Krom as a swapper. Later 'Krom' changed name into 'Rapace' we released only 1 lame demo and a few people left for other groups as the organisation was lame. I left with dudes to 'Exact' we released sum intros & a pack serie. Near 1990 i changed my A500 for a powerfull A2000 and i moved from 'Exact' and joined 'Nova' as a guest member in 1992. Then i joined 'Interactive' as organiser of the French section that was in 1993. Then finnaly i joined the forces of 'Surprise! Productions'. Q- What are the plans of Surprise! Productions for 1996? A- We are planning to release a BBS intro for 'Ordinary Madness' and probably a slide show with Moonchild artworks. Who knows? Q- You are French, right? A- Yes, i'm supposed to be French! But my roots are in Africa as my parents came from Algeria, an Arabian country located in North Africa. As ya probably know France was in war with Algeria and colonised it until 1962. And guess what happened there during that bloody colonisation time? The 13 February 1960 da first fucking French Plutonium bomb explosed at Reggane in the Sahara desert! :( As ever they contamined peoples who lived in the desert but do French peoples care about that? Naaaaa! they still make shit over next colonial countries! That makes me really sick!!!!!!! Q- What do you think about Chirac and his government? A-Ha!Ha!Ha!Ho!Ho!Ho!Hi!Hi!Hi!He!He!He! Sorry! that's a nervous reaction to this word 'Chirac Government' :) A bunch of fucking bastards you must say that!!!!!! Chirac has too much ambitions like our old president Degaulle ... Chirac is his perfect clone. As ya probably see/read at TV or any newspapers our entire country was paralysed by stykes! Due to this fuckin'lame governement, 'ThE VeRy BeSt'! Who didn't want to stop the stupide social proposition plan by Mr.Juppe :( Diz asshole want to break the social security for the whole public sector! It means that many people will work till 60 years old for leaving in retreat. It's very lame!!! like that we will get more unemployed people! Diz dweeb-governement wants to make France like USA-FuCk! Q- Did you vote for Chirac? A-Nooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!! (R.P.R SUXX!!!!) I voted for Jospin (Socialist) he is more clever than diz dweeb Chirac! Q- What your is opinion about the nuclear tests on mururoa? A- I think it's a real shame for the French! I'm against this horrible tests!!!! One day they will understand that we don't need this shit anymore!!! (will They?! -ed) We got the choice of the Simulation by computer which was safe and less expensive, but people chose a lame president who decided to do nuclear-tests again and that indeed is the reason that many countrys boycote French products (food, wine, cars,...). And what about the amount of monney delayed in this nasty tests??? We will continue to pay more & more taxes but thoSe people don't care.... Now French peoples begin to understand that they make a big mistake! Worse is that the millitary says that's safe for people! What a joke! There are Contamined people who fly over France on secret millitary planes on best French Hospitals as they are contamined and the governement don't want any chats about that! A small cantity of toxic waste goes away after the explosion over the Measures tube, and it contamined the ocean where people usually fish, vegetables, water, animals. It's sure that the people of Mururoa will be sick for decades .... Thank you very much Mr. Chirac!!! (haleluja-ed!) Q- What is the general opinion about the tests? What do the people around you think of the tests? A-Near 60 percent of the people are against the atomic tests. But you will probably ask why they voted for Chirac as president if they are against these tests ??! You must know that people were blasted of our old president Mitterand (Socialist) as he was our president during 14 years! (from 1981 to 1995). I know also that Mitterand made nasty things (ed- Rainbow Warriors gate, financial problems) People got blasted, they want to change of president so they believe on all the sweet promesses of Chirac and that even if he says that he will continue the nuclear tests!!! But more and more people stop believing in his broken promises and here it is! Sum are in doubtfull mind, they tend to trust scientists if they say that the risks are if not nil at least very limited. A few agree totaly with government with explanations like : 'it's the best way against eventual enemies like C.E.I, Irak, Iran' WeIrD Eh!? But who help Irak in 1975 for the construction of a nuclear reactor 'Osirak', that's France! even the risks that they could make nuclear weapons! They give also sum lame explanations as 'URRS and USA made also lot of tests and what we do actually is nothing compared at what they did before'. And do you figure assholes that in doing more shitty tests the planet will be more safe??? The rest don't even care! They got so much important things to think of...Chirac and Jospé social politics for example! Q- Please give a brief reaction on these words/sentences/names. -Chirac -Nuclear Bombs -Moruroa -x-mass 1995 -'if it is so safe and pure why not test these bombs on the cote d'azur' A- Chirac : He is the world king of lamers! His handle is 'Appleman' Ha! Ha! Ha! He is crazy! the day that he won the elections, he drove over Paris and that indeed is the fact that there was no any protection systems! i mean that anyone could shoot him!!! (Please do so! -ed!) At least i still can't believe that he is our President!!! Nuclear Bombs : The most deepest plague created by human race!!!!!!! Just remember 6 August 1945 Hiroshima, 9 August 1945 Nagasaki. Hiroshima = 70 000 peoples killed, Nagasaki = 40 000 peoples killed -Mururoa : Mururoa/Fangataufa/Hao Island of the Tuamotu polynesian archypels. Large of 860mk² with a population of 8 000 peoples. There the 11 september 1966, near the archypel of Hao a nuclear bomb explosed. And that was the begining of those hororibles nuclear tests!!! -x-mass 1995 : The beginning of a new year and a day of World peace. -'if it is so safe and pure why not test these bombs on the Cote d'Azur': First, the conditions are not the same. There is no lagoon there, and due to a lot of accidents wich can happen with nuclear tests we do it elsewhere . You must also know that Chirac got his money and his apple trees there :) Do you figure that he will eat contamined apples? no way man!!!! People who agree totaly Chirac says 'more it is done away, better is it!'. Q- Okay, TAL, enough about nuclear bombs! What do you think about AGA. A- I agree with the STOP AGA movement done by Rufferto of Cover Action Team (Raw#6) I don't understand why so many people make stuff only for AGA machines... There are sum groups which produce ECS & AGA releases (Trinity!) why others don't make the same? Why using a powerfull computer and make things that you can do on ECS machines? Sum people say that AGA looks like a new fashion, is it possible? I mean that what people had to know is that AGA is an extension of the ECS scene and not the opposite! AGA is the same example of what happened in the Acorn/Archimede scene! As Acorn dudes who got ECS Arm Archimede need to change for new Archimede Risc PC to stay active :( Q- Do you like the scene as much as you did before. (lets say in 1989) A- Yes, i prefer the scene as it was before, like 1989 a very great year!!! I know, i know, but you can call me nostalgic! But everyone must remember those glory days where scene was at the top. With lot of productions, many cooperations, biggest Partys, Wars , etc.... I like to see old stuff from that time; it gives me a strange feeling :) It's still great to watch 'Mental Hangover' or the 'Trsi Megademo' and see the greatest step that the scene made! If you got any Back time machine to sell ... Just call me!!! He! He! Q- Please name your top 3 (ever!! Also old names!!) of: -groups -coders -graphicians -musicians -swappers -productions A- Very difficult choices ya ask! Let's see, hmmm.... i think diz one is right for me : PHENOMENA ANARCHY SILENTS Taipan/Complex Coccy/Pmc Promax/ex-Kefrens Dan Malone/Bitmap Brothers (Coolest friend!) Fairfax/Andromeda Mack/Melon Heatbeat/Cncd Flame/Digital Blaizer/Silents/Team17 (FaBuLoUs!) Mister King/Scoopex Astro/Movement Encore/Spoon Enigma/Phenomena Hardwired/Tsl + Crionics Mental hangover/Scoopex Q- Do you think AGA will destroy the scene? A- Today we got 2 scenes: the AGA and the ECS scene. I think it's not only the fault of the AGA users, it's also the cause of the wrong politics of Commodore, whitch divided the people by bringing incompatible computers. When AGA machines cames, there were a few people who were disapointed this probably explains why they left for PC. I only hope that the ECS scene will survive as the C64 scene is still alive during 7-8 years! The Amiga scene need everyone of us and it doesn't matter if you are an AGA or an ECS user! Q- That was it. Thanx a lot, TAL!!!. The last lines are yours! A- I would like to send sum greets to a few peoples : All the Monk dudes for this coolest diskmag on scene! :) All da S!P world menbers and all believers of Surprise Productions! Computerize(Dany,Tomcat,Sucrerade) -Scoopex(Dr.Poop,Darren,Gansta,Karpow) Artwork(Damion) - Cndc(Aleksi Eben) - Essence(Dodger,Rufferto) - Digital(Flame) Damage(Action) - Lsd (Aquafresh,The Fink) - Nova(Marc,Blue Silence) Trsi(Dreamfish,Groovy,Overdose) - Citron - Intense - Depth - Interactive Spoon(Encore) - Diffusion(Valiant) - Rebels - Melon(Mack) - Freezer Dan Malone,Joe Walker(Kentish town Pub rulez!!!) - Rob Stevens(Palace 4 ever!) Reflex - Antic productions - Oxyron - Napalm and all others from the amazing C64 scene! To all those dudes from the Archimede/Acorn scene : Simon Elzinga - The ArcSailor- Armagheddon - Armaxess - Hugo Fiennes Arced - Coca Can - Armaniac - Clares - Greece - Tcd - Tnt - Tsk The Coconizer Suite - The Arcangels - The Keyboard Trasher - Arcrhiser And to all i know, respect, love! or simply admire....... -UpdatE (by SanE): right after this interview was taken, TaL heard some nasty things about him concerning S!P. He doesn't know what he will do but things have to be changed. Therefore some answers of him on my questions may have been altered a bit. The main answers, the answers on questions concerning the Nuclear tests of France half a year ago, are still good and therefore this interview was placed. The core of the interview stayed the same and that's what matters! -Is it possible to communicate with the French?!- Because the French government acted so ultimately lame by doing the nuclear tests on Moruroa anyway, in spite of world-WidE objections, I -S-aNE- began to think all French people were the same. In short; I -SA-ne- thought it was not possible to communicate with those barbarians. 'Throw them out of the European Comunity!', 'Lets kiCK some French butt' and 'If it's so safe and PUre, why not test it on the cote D'azur?' were sentences you could often hear from my mouth. But then .... out of noWhere ... a ReacTion from a BarbaRian on the 'Moruroa-Nuked?!'-article, which was placed in the Trinity article release 2 ('The sequel'!), was delivered at my place. I received a letter from Tal who is a member of Surprise! Productions. This duDE lives in France and told me that a lot of French people are nicE people and most are even Civilised! I answered his letter and what became clear? This man was really nice!!!! Tal has become a good friend of Me and because Tal is so c00l I thought of giving him the benefit of the doubt. I gave him ThE pencil and he was allowed to explain some things. Maybe we, the resT of the world, will understand what was happening overtherE in France. And maybe we will come to the conclusion thaT there still are nice French-people. See for yourself, it's JudGement DaY! Read the interview with a cool FRench person! Sane! -Doing things 'THe French way' can be nice ....... (But Nuclear tests 'SuCK'!!) Where would you be without the Amiga? This article is supposed to be a FeedBack-article on the Magic/NaHKolor/Trsi-article which was printed in RAW issue 9. Magic wrote an article which was called 'Where is your childhood' or something like that. He says that a lot of people in the Amiga scene do not have good social lives because they have spent too many hours on the Amiga. I think he is wrong. Of course, there are always people who make an obsession out of their hobbies. But..... Magic overreacts. I think for most sceners the scene is still a hobby. Allright, they might spend a lot of hours a week on the Amiga but isn't that the same with good young soccerplayers who like to play soccer. What is the difference? I don't think having a computer (especially not a vivid and cool computer like the Amiga) as a hobby will melt down your social live. On the contrary! Most people I know like the Amiga scene a lot and they would love to be a scener. I came in contact with very cool people who were sceners before I was one and without the Amiga I would have never come into contact with them. In my case for example I would have never met Chiron of Monk (ex-Jay One), he is nowadays my best friend in social life! Chiron and I do many more things than just computing. I go out with him, go to a cinema with him and other friends, we go to eachothers birthdays etc. etc. I know a lot of cool people because of the scene. I also think the Amiga scene kept me from the streets. Before I became a scener (1989), I spent many hours on the streets playing nasty things with my nephew. We did everything; we stole bikes, we did graffiti and busted the windows of libraries and retirement houses. We had illegal fireworks throughout the year and dropped them everywhere. Without the Amiga I would have spent many more hours on crime and in the end I am sure I would have become a juvenal delinquent. (I was busted once for theft and graffiti) Because of the Amiga-hobby I was more inside the house than before and the only criminal things I did was blueboxing and stampfaking. And now 1995/1996 I am studying Dutch Law, have a great girl and some cool friends I would have never had without the Amiga. Think twice before you write articles like Magic did and think about this: 'Where would you be WitHouT the Amiga?' In my case I would be in serious trouble for sure and most likely in jail instead of the University. (without cool friends like Yorick (Chiron!!). Sane (glad to be a scener!!) .... :-D -A Womans Taste- A while ago I (-Sane-) made an article, together with my girlfriend, called "A Womans opinion" (printed in "Trinity, article release 2" by Monk). Sceners are always interested in words of women because of the obvious reason that women are not with many in our so beloved scene (unfortunately). Because we got so many positive reactions on the first article/interview, we decided to do another one. Because Sandra has seen only a few older productions and doesn't know many handles, she is the most objective girl I could wish to do an article like this with. In this article I will find out what names appeal to Sandra and because Sandra is an objective person, also which names appeal to women in general. What names do girls like? That's the question which will be answerred! Will she pick the famous names or the less famous ones? A fact is that she does not know who and what is famous in our scene, that's what makes it interesting. Ok, now I'll let Sandra be Critical! ... .... ... .. 1. -Coders -Sane: "Sandra, down below you see a list of names of coders, those are the persons who fit everything together. Please tell us which names you like best. (1-5) Just pick the ones which you think are the nicest, best found, most original, funniest etc!" Laxity Vention Tsunami Hannibal The Spy Performer Bannasoft Hornet Dr.Jekyll & Mr.Hyde Wayne Mendoza Deftronic Sim Zeque Tim Kayo Dope The Merge Anthony Magician Lord Major Asshole Dan Celtic Mr. Pet Chaos -Sandra's top 5 of coders! 1.Dr.Jekyll & Mr.Hyde 2.Chaos 3.The Merge 4.Celtic 5.Performer -It seems like Sandra thinks the Polka bros. and ex-Kefrens coders nameswitch is a good move. She ranks The Merge on 3 and leaves Laxity out. "I don't like real names." says Sandra, that explains why Tim and Dan are out. "I like Chaos because I think coding IS Chaos and Performer because coding is performing art for me!!" Dr.Jekyll & Mr.Hyde were the ones she ranked 1 in a second, "I like funny and original names." is Sandra's brief explanation. 2. -Graphicians -Sane: "Okay, the same again, But now for the graphicians. Those are the people who draw the pictures and logo's etc. The visual things of a production!" (1-5) Facet Danny R.W.O Pixie Hein Fade one P.G.C.S Airwalk Cougar Mack Uno Mystik Peachy Angeldawn Iridon Rack J.o.e Jade Lowlife Seen Hof Fairfax Red devil Ra -Sandra's top 5 of graphicians! 1.Facet 2.Fairfax 3.Seen 4.J.o.e 5.Fade One Funny she ranks one of the best graphicians 1 while she didn't see one single graphic of Facet. "It just sounds cool, just like Fairfax! Seen is on nr. 3 because gfx has to be seen! I put Fade One in, because he reminds me of Jay One (nowadays called "Chiron"-ed), your best friend ....." 3-Musicians -Sane: "Are you bored yet? Well hang on! This are the sceners who make the music. They are called musicians. Name your top 5 please!" Hollywood Hein Moby Jester Mantronix & Tip Virgill Romeo Knight Mel O' dee Groo Spaceman Nuke Supernao Bruno Audiomonster Heatbeat Fabian Deelite Dreamer Lizard Lizard King -Sandra's top 5 of musicians! 1.Mantronix & Tip 2.Heatbeat 3.Mel O' dee 4.Fabian 5.Audiomonster "Heatbeat and Mel O' dee are very nice names because they make you think of music at once. Even when you do not know what they do in the scene you will guess of making music." Altough Fabian is a real name she puts him on nr.4. Maybe that's because she saw "Menace" and liked the music, not 100 percent fair thus. "Audiomonster is very funny in my eyes!" 4-Editors/Swappers -Sane: "I guess you know what I want you to do! Editors are peole who write articles in diskmags and put diskmags together. Swappers are people who spread productions to other sceners!" Mr.King Noodle Astro Mount Rokdazone Magic Radavi The Pride Mob Macno Cesium Wolfman Nimrod Decca Cybersonik -Sandra's Top 5 of editors/Swappers 1.Noodle 2.Rokdazone 3.Cybersonik 4.The Pride 5.Mob "The Pride is in because I like names with 'THE' and Mob because it makes me think of the Maffia. The rest simply makes me remind of computers and cyberspace!" 5-Diskmags -Sane: "I guess you know what diskmags are eh? Please rank them from 1-5!" RAW Upstream Zine Disc ROM News On Tour Scene Lyrics Free 'n Easy Maggy The Jungle Buzz Ice Megazin Gedan Vision Deadlock Stolen Data Eternal Chit Chat Grapevine McDisk Abnormalia -Sandra's Top 5 of diskmags! 1.Chit Chat 2.The Jungle 3.Grapevine 4.Stolen Data 5.Zine All mags she put in this little chart are dead except for The Jungle!!! Aint that a scarry thought? Maybe having a cool name makes you die?!! Obviously Sandra likes names wich has something to do with being a mag. "Yes. Chit Chat and Grapevine have something to do with talking and spreading the news and that's why I picked them. Stolen Data has somewhat the same reason." Also nice is that she didn't name RAW an ROM, the leading mags. It seems like it is not necessary to have a cool name to make it. She put an older mag and the example of RAW in, though! 6-Groups -Sane: "Phew! The last list! Which names of groups do you like best?" Kefrens Axis Lemon. Polka Brothers Virtual Dreams Melon design Vision Jetset Desire Tristar Red Sector Inc. Mirage Spaceballs Anarchy Sonik (Cligue) Mellow The Silents Stellar Dual Crew Sanity Majic 12 Balance Razor 1911 LSD Absolute! Scoopex Pure Metal Coders Bamiga sector 1 Alcatraz Andromeda Skid Row Royal Amiga Force -Sandra's Top 5 of groups! 1.Royal Amiga Force 2.Anarchy 3.Mirage 4.Lemon. 5.Scoopex "RAF is the best convertion I have ever seen! The rest are just picked because I had to pick 4 other names! I don't like names which has something to do with drugs (ed:LSD) and numbers. Most names are too long! I like names like MONK, too bad that name wasn't in the list!" (c)1996 San(e)-dra *productions* -=The RAW monopoly=- Take a deep breath and fill your lungs with fresh oxygen, because I am going to lead you through the RAW-monopoly in one quick blow! Here we go- Astro, Terrox and Mount. (Main-editors) Lord Helmet, Rokdazone and Macno. Are you still with me? The list goes on! Hollywood, Wolfman and Cybersonik. Nimrod, Decca and Magic. We are not finished yet! Can you believe it? Facet and Supernao! Phew!! No less than 3 (three) main editors and 11 (eleven) editors. 14 writers together. And of course RAW has many issue-writers too. It is in my eyes legitimate to speak of the RAW-monopoly. After the death of the second best diskmag, Upstream, RAW got a lot of good editors. Especially some of the main people of Upstream joined the RAW-staff. Also others like Hollywood/Axis had just joined. The staff of RAW is really HUGE now, in fact it is too big. Fourteen permanent writers, no mag has ever reached such an enormous number of people which provide the mag with articles each issue. When every writer would write 3 articles (14*3= 42) RAW would have enough material (togheter with approx. 15 articles of the issue-writers) for a new issue. RAW leaves no space for other diskmags. Of course it is nice for the scene to have a real good diskmag like RAW. But RAW already was the best diskmag and was the best for a long time already. In my opinion they created their own monopoly and drew almost all the good writers towards them. With this Iron monopoly RAW beats both old and newborn mags, they even beat the mags which still have to be born. With so many writers you can never fail and you can beat everybody. But the question you have to ask is: 'Is it fun to be on the number one spot this way?' As Magic/Nah-kolor says : 'There is no need for Kasper (ed:Astro) to release often. Two times a year is enough to stay at the top!' RAW may claim they are one of the few active mags in the Amiga scene and RAW may say that we do not have to bother them by talking about a monopoly because they really do something for the scene, but .... in a way RAW is killing the diskmagscene with such a monopoly. It doesn't matter how hard beginners try and how many articles they write. It is never possible to beat a team of the 14 best writers in the scene. It is not possible to stand in the shade of the team of the 14 best editors and it is not even possible to walk a 1000 yards behind them. RAW is the only mag. RAW will be the only mag. And RAW will always stay the only mag. There is no room for others. RAW is the one and only dominator. There is one little but bright light! Insiders say that Wolfman has left the RAW-staff ('He has never been a real member of the RAW-staff, he read he belonged to the staff to his surprise in RAW 10! ... .'-scene gossip!) Wolfman has an idea for the ultimate diskmag. The mag will be called 'Magnet' and will be AGA and harddisk only. The name is a link of 'Magazine' and 'Internet' (the menu and pages will look like WWW-pages), but it is also one word; 'Magnet' which shows how appealing the mag will be. Magic/Nah kolor will be a main-editor and the mag will probably be released somewhere in September '96.!! Let's hope all of this is true and RAW will loose some of it's monopoly and get's a little competition for the change! That would be better for the diskmag scene and also for the whole scene! Don't get me wrong. I also think RAW is the best Magazine and I think the 14 people of the RAW-staff are great and I am not jealous because I am not one of them. I just think a staff of 14 people is too big, overdone. Especially when those are the top 14 of the scene. Such a monopoly consumes everything. The spirit to write of those 14 people is also gone. A fact is when you are a member of such a big staff the motivation to write many awesome articles is gone. 'Someone else of our staff will do one so why should I bother to do another one. I can spend my time on other things now.' is what you will think when you belong to such a staff. For the sceners in the staff this is great because they have time for their girlfriends and they can watch their favourite show again. But .... for the Scene as a whole it is a drama because they get less enjoyable articles and mags as they would get when the sceners of the RAW-staff were scattered amongst other mags, all trying to give everything they got. Therefore this monopoly is in my opinion a disaster for the diskmagscene! I hope that some people agree with me and start a new and good mag in which they put all their energy instead of joining 'big-allready-existing-staffs'! Thank you! Sane of The HP-staff, a small staff ..... (Sniff or Hooray?) PS: The sad news that RAW died about 1.5 months ago, struck me (and for sure others too) hard. I am very disappointed. Because I have enjoyed RAW always very, very much I decided to print this article about RAW anyway, in spite of this great(est) mag's death. See it as a tribute to RAW... ... .. There is no doubt that RAW was the best mag ever, the fact that I wrote an article about the RAW-monopoly only a month before it's death, shows us that RAW was the real dominator amongst magazines! Of course this article loses some of it's meaning but then again ... the core of the article goes for every big Mag-staff! *The day RAW died was the most black day in the diskmag history!!* CritiCaL -=SaNe=-?! The title of this article and of course the name of the CoRneR as a whole have to be explained before you go on and read my articles. When you see the name 'CriTiCal towardS all' it seems like I (SanE) will bug everybody again. It looks like I will be the same pain in the ass as I have been in the last 6 years (worst in 1990-1993). Nothing is less true! Because these days (Bon JoVI?!), 1996, the Amiga scene is actually getting smaller and worse every month. Maybe the scene is even dying. Everybody is delaying their productions and in between parties people do not even bother to release. Many persons said it before and many people denied it, including me, but in 1996 our worst nightmare is becoming real : our beloved scene is sick! Most sceners tend to think like this :'Scene-life is a bitch, and then you die!' Because of all the above I set up this corner. This CornEr is meant as an objective medium in which I will try to be as fair as possible. I will not slag off certain people, groups or projects. No! I will just review some acts and ocassions. Some things in this scene deserve to be discussed. I will try to give my point of view. Sometimes these comments will be funny (like in the 'Zine Poll'), sometimes hard ('Suffer or die'), sometimes even understanding ('Communicate with the French' and 'Interview with a French-dude'), but most of the times my comments will be sincere and with them I try to give my share of improving the scene. Of course this CornEr will not save the scene but maybe I can get one or two people thinking and than maybe changing their ways! I sure hope so 'cause in my opinion this scene could be so much greater and so much nicer for everybody. Because 'CritiCal' (as in the name of this corner) encloses very much, a lot of diverse subjects will be discussed! From diskmags and their faults in the past (Zine), diskmags of the present (RAW&ROM), ignorant sceners and their lack of history-knowledge ('The Scene Quiz!') to simply taking a look at the coolness of the names of sceners and productions ('A womans taste'), everything will be discussed! Nothing will be excluded : Advanced sceners, Legends, lamers and starters but also countries as a whole (France!!) and subjects beyond scene-life (like the environment) will be judged critically but in a nice and friendly way! Even my group 'MonK' will be critically judged! There won't be exceptions for anybody! Everybody is free to write to me and tell their opinion and I will try to comment on their words in my next corner! The address is: Sane Korte Tuinstraat 32 1601 CJ Enkhuizen Holland. Remember that I am trying to be objective and giving you my point of view and above all trying to enjoy myselve and hopefully a few other sceners too! Enjoy the corNeR now! Sane! Review of: Title:Crumb (1995) Country:USA Running time:119m. Director:Terry Zwigoff This film is nothing more than a documentary spanding 6 years in the life of '60s comic artist Robert Crumb.. R. Crumb is the man responsible for such underground classics as Fritz the Cat and the inventor of the term Keep On Trucking.. This film also shows us his family which are shown as manic depressives.. The vieuw on the world as seen by R. Crumb is dark and bitter, yet true.. Besides R. Crumb and his family we also see some of his friends, ex-girlfriends and colleauges who tell us what they think about R. Crumb.. In this film we also find out that R. Crumb had in no way anything to do with the movie Fritz the Cat (1973) made by Ralph Bakshi.. Again a movie wich you'll either love or loath, but still an inspiring portrait of a man who has been singlehandidly responsible for todays underground cartoons.. We Killed Commodore! By Butterfly "Commodore is Dead, people shout! And they move over to the PC.." What is going on with Commodore? Which software firm will keep producing games on the Amiga? What is... How come... Many questions rise in our little world. The scene is getting smaller.. Aga halved the scene, someone writes, but will the next generation of Amiga Computers halve it again? Daydream has send some of his Journalists to London, where a big fair was going on, they asked almost every software firm if they would continue producing games on the amiga... Here are some results! - 21st CENTURY - PAUL TOPPING: "We don't leave the AMIGA, we don't think the market is dead, we are just waiting for news about the commodore's buy out. It's true, we are developing more on PC than AMIGA" - ACTIVISION - JANINE JOHNSON: "We've completely stopped development on AMIGA for a long time ago, we develop only on all the performant machines that have a real potential, of course if the AMIGA's market reborns thanks to the commodre's buy out then we will develop again" - ASCON - ULRICH FELDMANN: "like every one, we can't live & earn money only with the amiga's market that's why we develop on PC !! We don't want to leave the AMIGA." - EMPIRE - NICK WALKLAND: "It's true that we've stopped to develop new games especially for amiga... but if we receive some FREELANCE production then we will distribute them... of course if COMMODORE comes back on the scene we will restart developping." - CYBERDREAMS - ALISON RYAN: "We've just stopped to develop on AMIGA, only 2 or 3 titles left will be released. We don't think that the AMIGA will find again a real succes on the market... and it is very unprobable that we will develop on this computer again !!!! " (Butterfly :This additude isn't cool at all...) - VIRGIN - PRECILE BRAUT: "No more specific development on amiga but only adaptation from other computers (Like The Jungle Book Ed.) but if the market reborns then we will develop on amiga again." - CODE MASTERS - SEBASTIEN SOULIER: "We got no more development on amiga besides MICRO-MACHINES 2 on CD32, there is a real request for amiga software but the distribution is becoming inexistant !! " - ELECTRONIC ARTS - KARINE DOGNIN: "We don't believe any more in the amiga's market ! we have better pre- occupation as PC development ... But if amiga comes back in shops with a real support then we will restart to develop... But I don't believe that this computer will be at his top like before." - FLAIR SOFTWARE - COLIN COURTNEY: "We got only one last game on amiga. The amiga's market is dying day after day then we have the regret to stop development on amiga. We just hope that the amiga's market will restart..." - OCEAN - GEORGES MAYER: "We don't stop developing on amiga but we're very careful because the market is falling, even in UK !! That becomes very difficult to distribute our productions." - GAMETEK - CATHERINE AVALREZ: "We will continue to develop on amiga as long as the potentiel of users will be high..." - GRANDSLAM - MARK STEVENSON: "The amiga represents a great part of our development then of course we will continue to support it." - INTERPLAY - ALYSON GODDANT: "The problem is that we are an U.S house edition and there is pratically no amiga computers in the states, then we work on some powerful platforms like PSX,SATURN.... and it is very difficult to convert powerful games on amiga that's why there is no chance that one day we'll spend some time to develop on amiga." - IMPRESSIONS - STERLING MICHAEL: "we're developing more games than ever and especially on A1200, we believe in the amiga !!! - TIME WARNER - DAVEN BULLIVAN: "we've not received any directives for stopping an amiga project or simply stopping to develop on amiga ... anyway PRIMAL RAGE is planning for augustus 95 on amiga !!" - KOMPART - NASH IAN: "We still have some projects on amiga to be finished, but for july 95 we will stop all development on amiga... the PC's market is becoming so great that we have to develop on it. Anyway it'll take a long time for amiga to come back and even if it does it'll be too late!! that's why we want to stop developing on the amiga..." - KRISALIS - TIM JAMES: "We have no new project planning on amiga due to the problems of commodore but if the commodore reborns from his ashes for sure we will start again the development." - TEAM 17 - ALAN BUNKER: "We must confess that we are developing more games on other platforms like the PSX, the SATURN , PC and MAC... our reputation comes from amiga but if the problems of commodore don't change, we'll have to develop on other platforms like PC, MAC...." - KINGSOFT (IKARION) - WOLFGANG MERKENS: "we going to produce 2 more games and then quit. Most of the germans sold their amiga computer, and even if it was going better in 2 or 3 months, we think it'll be too late for the amiga." - MINDSCAPE - EMMANUEL DENNIS: "The amiga is finished !! Now only PC & MAC CD- ROM rule the market. There is no more distribution for amiga's titles and worse there's no demand anymore. People are going to choose these machines or if they can't afford it, they'll choose PSX or SATURN consoles. Amiga looks now like atari, we don't trust it anymore... it won't restart, it's definitely dead !!" - MILLENIUM - KEITH SMITH: "The amiga is no more profitable, that's why there's no much left for the future... We'll keep an eye on the market and if it's getting better we'll develop again on amiga." - US GOLD - STEPHANIE CAPON: "We have one last project on amiga, and that is Super street fighter 2 ... We cannot develop on a falling market ! If the amiga market restarts of course we'll produce again some games on amiga..." _ |_| | |s you can see, many of the best and biggest software houses call it a day, and will or already have quit the Amiga! Some have an excuse like we will be back when the amiga market will stabelise, but what they don't realise is that they are killing the Amiga themselfes! (*) Help us ESCOM, you are our only hope! (*) The Smilie colection! Smilies have been in our society since the mid-eighties and they appeared in the 'pump-up-the-volume-acid-songs' for the first time. Since then our world likes smilies a lot and uses them often. Since the internet was launced users began to use smilies more and more. And in the year 1996, the smilie collection is H-u-G-e! We bring you the most complete smilie collection thinkable. This collection was brought to us by Tal/Surprise!. Thanx a lot mate! Now enjoy the show!!!!!!!!!!! ................ :-) Willie Shoemaker !-( black eye !.'v (profile) flat top #-) partied all night #:o+= Betty Boop $-) Alex P. Keaton (from "Family Ties") $-) won big at Las Vagas $-) won the lottery $-) yuppie %') after drinking a fifth for lunch %*@:-( hung over %-(I) laughing out loud %-) Elephant man %-) after staring at the terminal for 36 hours %-) broken glasses %-) cross-eyed %-) long bangs %-6 braindead %- drunk with laughter %-| been working all night %-~ Picasso %\v Picasso &-| tearful &.(.. crying &:-) curly hair '-) one eyed man '-) only has a left eye, which is closed '-) wink ':-) one eyebrow '~;E unspecified 4-legged critter (-) needs a haircut (-: Australian (-: Don Ellis from Tektronix (-: left-handed (-::-) Siamese twins (8-) wears glasses (8-o Mr. Bill (: (=| wearing a ghost costume (:)-) scuba diving (:+) big nose (:-# said something he shouldn't have (:-$ ill (:-& angry (:-( frowning (:-( unsmiley frowning (:-) big-face (:-) no hair (:-) surprised (:-) wearing bicycle helmet (:-* kissing (:-... heart-broken (:-D blabber mouth (:-I egghead (:-\ VERY sad (:-{~ bearded (:-|K- formally attired (:<) blabber mouth (:=) TWO noses (?) (:>-< thief: hands up! (:I egghead (:^( broken nose (O--< fishy (V)=| pacman champion ) Cheshire cat )8-) scuba smiley big-face ):-( unsmiley big-face ):-) smiley big-face *!#*!^*&:-) a schizophrenic *-( Cyclops got poked in the eye *-) shot dead *:* fuzzy *:** fuzzy with a fuzzy mustache *:o) Bozo the Clown *<.'v (profile) wearing snow cap *<:-) Santa Claus *<|:-) Santa Claus (Ho Ho Ho) *<|:-)) Santa Claus +-(:-) Religious leader +-(:-) the Pope +-:-) priest +:-) priest +<.'v (profile) knight +<:-| monk/nun +<||-) knight +O:-) the Pope ,-) User only has one eye ...but he's winking ,-) other eyed man ,-} wry and winking ,.'v (profile) has short hair ,:-) User shaved his left eyebrow off this morning - Helen Keller - @= messages about nuclear war -) Jose Feliciano ---...--- S.O.S -:-( punk rocker (real punk rockers don't smile) -:-) has mohawk -:-) punk rocker -=#:-) wizard .'! (profile) has grimm .'" 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Public :V woodpecker :V) woodpecker :X) hearing no evil :[ real downer :] Gleep...a friendly midget smiley who will gladly be your friend :^) broken nose :^) smiley with pointy nose (righty) :^D "Great! I like it!" :_) User's nose is sliding off of his face :n) funny-looking right nose :u) funny-looking left nose :v) left-pointing broken nose :v) left-pointing nose :{ oh boy, the headmaster!... :} What should we call these (what?) :~( nose put out of joint :~) Peter Ubberoth :~) needs a nosejob :~) pointy nose (righty) :~) ugly nose ;( crying ;-( beaten up ;-( crying ;-) beaten up ;-) crying with happiness ;-) getting fresh ;-) sardonic incredulity ;-) winking ;-\ Popeye beaten up ;-| beaten up but silent ;^ ?punched out <:-( disappointed <:-( dunce <:-) Vietnamese peasant <:-) dumb questions <:-)<<| in a space rocket <:-I dunce <:I dunce <<<<(:-) hat salesman :=== has been railroaded =====:} snake =t== Mexican run over by train =|:-) Abe Lincoln =|:-)= Abe Lincoln >- female >-< absolutely livid!! >-> china man >-^);> fish >:) a little devil >:*) Bozo the Clown >:-( mad, annoyed >:-( sick and tired of reading this nonsense >:-< mad >:-> devilish >:-I net.startrek >:^( headhunter (Amazon style) >;-> Winky and devil combined. A very lewd remark was just made. >>-O-> General Custer >|-> Chinese ?-( has black eye @%&$%&$\&*@%$#@ you know what that means... @-) Cyclops @.'v (profile) has curly hair @:-) Indian (East) @:-) User is wearing a turban @:-) wavy hair @:I turban @= User is pro-nuclear war B) frog wearing sunglasses B-(8 Sir Robin Day (a British BBC TV presenter, famed for his grumpy countenance, and who wears glasses and a bow tie) B-) Batman B-) glasses B-) horn-rimmed glasses B-) sunglasses B-)-[< sunglasses and swimming trunk B-D "Serves you right, dummy!!" B-| cheap sunglasses B:-) sunglasses on head C:# football player C:-) large brain capacity C=:-) Galloping Gourmet C=:-) chef C=}>;*{)) Mega-Smiley... A drunk, devilish chef with a toupee in an updraft, a mustache, and a double chin C=}>;*{O) Mega-Smiley... A drunk, devilish chef with a toupee in an updraft, a mustache, and a double chin C|:-= Charlie Chaplin E-:-) User is a Ham radio operator E-:-I net.ham-radio K:P User is a little kid with a propeller beenie L:-) just graduated M-) sees no evil M-),:X),:-M sees no evil, hears no evil, speaks no evil M:-) saluting O :-) User is an angel (at heart, at least) O |-) net.religion O-&-< doing nothing O-(==< chastised and/or chagrined, or is merely asleep. O-) Megaton Man On Patrol! (or else, user is a scuba diver) O-) cyclops O-G-< pointing to self O-S-< in a hurry O-Z-< in a big hurry O:-) acting very innocent (halo) O:-) with halo O>-<|= of interest to women P-) Colonel Klink (Hogan's Heroes) P-) getting fresh Q:-) new graduate R-) broken glasses X-( User just died X-( net.suicide [:-) User is wearing a walkman [:-) listening to walkman [:-) wearing a walkman [:-] square head [:] User is a robot [:|] robot (or other AI project) [] Hugs \/\/\/\,8-O really should fix frayed line cord on terminal \:-) french hat ]:-) The Devil _:^) American Indian __. properly chastised and/or chagrined, or is merely asleep __/~`-'~\_/ line of thought isn't quite a line __Q~`__ cat `:-) User shaved his right eyebrow off this morning d.'v (profile) wearing hard hat d8= Your pet beaver is wearing goggles and a hard hat g-) smiley with pince-nez glasses g-) wearing ponce-nez glasses i-=<*** __. CAUTION: has flame thrower and uses it! i-=<****** o-(==< CAUTION: has flame thrower and uses it! i-=<***i CAUTION: has flame thrower o-) Cyclops o>8<|= messages about interesting women oo somebody's head- lights are on oo- puzzled, confused pp# cow pq`#' bull {(:-) wearing toupee {0-) Cyclops {:-) hair parted in the middle {:-) new hair style {:-) wearing a toupee {:-{)} new hair style, mustache and beard {:^=( Hitler {{-}}} refugee from the '60's {} 'no comment' |) salamander |-( late at night |-) Chinese |-) asleep (boredom) |-) hee hee |-D ho ho |-I sleeping |-O birth |-O bored |-O yawning/snoring |-P yuk |-{ "Good Grief!" (Charlie Brown?) |:-) heavy eyebrows |:-| excessively rigid |:[' Groucho Marx |I asleep |^o snoring |~( "Someone just busted my nose". }(:-( wearing toupee in wind }:-( bull headed }:-( toupee in an updraft }:-) hair parted in the middle in an updraft }:-< cat }:^#}) mega-smiley: updrafted bushy- mustached pointy nosed smiley with a double -chin }:~#}) mega-smiley: updrafted bushy- mustached pointy nosed smiley with a double -chin ~ :-( particularly angry ~'v (profile) has long bangs ~M`'~ camel ~~:-( net.flame ~~~\8-O zapped by frayed cord on terminal ~~~~~8} snake Phew ! That was it :-D!!!!! -Sane of Mellow was your host.- PS: :-D Sane when starting to edit this article! :-) Sane after 100 smileys :-( Sane at the end of article! Jay Miner Interview Pasadena, September 1992. The name badge says it all, Jay Miner, VIP, Father of the Amiga. During my recent jaunt to the A4000 launch in Los Angeles, I was lucky enough to meet and talk to Jay as he cast his fatherly eye over the next generation of the architecture he created all those years ago. We talked and ate as he reiterated the fascinating history of the secret project that resulted in the birth of a remarkable machine, which has survived mainly because of his foresight and supreme effort. It was all far from plain sailing, however, and plenty of skullduggery was afoot from a number of parties, not least the design team themselves! The story about the Amiga's genesis has been told before, but it is only relatively recently that Jay and Commodore have been seeing eye to eye about the machine and its evolution. Also, there are many little anecdotes untold before now... Jay: "The story starts in the early 1980's with a company not originally called Amiga, but Hi Toro, which was started by Dave Morris, our president, but before all that I used to work with Atari and I wanted to do a 68000 machine with them. We had just finished the Atari 800 box and they were not about to spend another umpteen dollars on research for a 16-bit machine and the processor chip itself cost $100 apiece. RAM was also real expensive and you need twice as much. They couldn't see the writing on the wall and they just said "No", so I quit!". Jay Miner is not a man to say "No" to, and it's quite clear that Atari must still be regretting their myopic decision. Anyway, Jay still held the concept of an all-powerful 16-bit machine but the bills had to be paid. "I went to a chip company called Xymos as I knew the guy who started it. He gave me some stock and it looked like an interesting startup company (I've worked for a lot of new companies). Going back to Atari, Larry Caplan was one of the top programmers on the Atari 2600 video game. Him and the other programmers wanted a pay rise, or at least a small royalty, a nickel per cartridge in fact, on the software that was selling like crazy. Atari was making a fortune and they said "No" so they all said "Goodbye" and they went off and started a little company called Activision. Larry rang me up about two years later in early '82 and said he wasn't happy at Activision and suggested we start up a company. I had a lot of stock in Xymos and suggested we get some outside finance from back East. We hired a little office on Scott Boulevard, Santa Clara and they got a Texas millionaire to put up some money. He liked the idea of a new video game company which is what Larry Caplan wanted to do. He was going to do the software and I was going to design the chips". "I told Dave Morris about some of the ideas I had about designing a games machine that was expandable to a real computer and he though that was a great idea but didn't tell any of his investors. I moved to Santa Clara from Xymos. They were still called Hi Toro but the investors wern't too keen so they chose "Amiga" and I didn't like it much - I thought using a Spanish name wasn't such a good move. I was wrong!" The design team at Hi Toro/Amiga was assembled from a bunch of people over the next few months. Jay says that they were looking for people not just interested in a job, but with a passion for the Amiga (codenamed Lorraine after the president's wife) and the immense potential it offered. "We worked out a deal whereby I got a salary and some stock and I also got to bring my dog Mitchy into work every day. Dave did reserve the right to go back on that one if anyone else objected but Mitchy was very popular." I asked Jay to sum up what it was like to work on the Amiga: "The great things about working on the Amiga? Number one I was allowed to take my dog to work and that set the tone for the whole atmosphere of the place. It was more than just companionship with Mitchy - the fact that she was there meant that the other people wouldn't be too critical of some of those we hired, who were quite frankly weird. There were guys coming to work in purple tights and pink bunny slippers. Dale Luck looked like your average off-the-street homeless hippy with long hair and was pretty laid back. In fact the whole group was pretty laid back. I wasn't about to say anything - I knew talent when I saw it and even Parasseau [the "Evangelist" who spread the word] was a bit weird in a lot of ways. The job gets done and that's all that matters. I didn't care how solutions came about even if people were working at home. "There were a lot of various arguments and the way most were sorted out was by hitting each other with the foam baseball bats. The stung a bit if you got hit hard. There was a conflict in the fundamental design philosophy with some like RJ Mical wanting the low cost video game (the investors side, you might say). Others like Dale Luck and Carl Sassenrath wanted the best computer expansion capability for the future. This battle of cost was never ending, being internal; among us as well as with the investors and Commodore. "You go through stages in any large project like the Amiga of thinking "This looks great and it's going to sell really well", and then things go wrong and you just want to quit!" The unique spirit at Amiga was such that people worked tirelessly on their various projects, remembering that the software was well on the way to completion before any silicon had been pounded into the graphics chips. Carl Sassenrath was brought in to do the operating system and was asked at the interview "What would you like to design?". He just replied that Commodore and was instrumental in designing CDTV. Incredible really that they opted for such a sophisticated backdrop for a games machine. Already, strange things were afoot.... "I started thinking about what we wanted to design. Right from the beginning I wanted to do a computer like the A2000 with lots of expansion slots for drives, a keyboard etc. I'd also read a bit about blitters and so I talked with a friend called Ron Nicholson who was also interested in them and he came to join us. We came up with all sorts of functions for the blitter. Line drawing was added much later at the request of Dale Luck, one of our software guys. This was about two weeks before the CES show where the Amiga was unveiled. I told him we can't put that in there as the chips were nearly done and there wasn't enough room. He fiddled about and showed me what registers were needed, so in it went". The chips took three designers including Jay (who did the Agnus) almost two years to design (1982-84) and throughout this time the ever-expanding software team were working on what became the Amiga's operating system libraries and such like. They had a pretty tough job writing for the most advanced, radical hardware ever conceived for a home machine, and which didn't really exist, except for a zillion and one ideas and a white board of obscure diagrams. "Once you've got the design concept for the chips, all you need to do then is pick names for the registers and tell the software people something like "I'm going to have a register here that's going to hold the colours for this part and it's called whatever." They can the simulate it in their software. We then built hardware simulators called bread boards and that was a chore. We originally did the chips using the NMOS process which has much higher current consumption than the state of the art CMOS. I'm surprised that Commodore haven't re-designed the chips in CMOS which is the big stumbling block to bringing out a protable. We did that because at the time, CMOS was much slower than NMOS and not as reliable. It's now much faster, so why are Commodore still using NMOS for some of their chips?" "Hold and Modify came from a trip to see flight simulators in action and I had a kind of idea about a primitive type of virtual reality. NTSC on the chip meant you could hold the Hue and change the luminance by only altering four bits. When we changed to RGB I said that wasn't needed any more at it wasn't useful and I asked the chip layout guy to take it off. He came back and said that this would either leave a big hole in the middle of the chip or take a three-month redesign and we couldn't do that. I didn't think anyone would use it. I was wrong again as that has really given the Amiga its edge in terms of the colour palette." It was Commodore who wanted to leave things as NTSC/PAL output. We wanted to make them RGB but monitors were so expensive in those days - IBM's and Mac's were monochrome. I'd put the converter on the chip and this was a very low cost way of doing things as it saved a lot of parts, but by the time Commodore bought us, the bottom had fallen out of the video game market and we were moving more towards a computer so Commodore agreed to finance RGB as well. Seeing pictures of the early Amiga, it's almost impossible to imagine that the piles of wires and boards could eventually be reduced to something the size of an A500. The first Agnus was three lots of eight bread boards, each with 250 chips, and this was repeated for the other two custom chips which were nicknamed Daphne and Portia in those days and metamorphosed into Denise and Paula. "Those were a nightmare to keep running with all the connections keeping breaking down. They're still around somewhere. We hired lots of other people to design peripherals which kept the notorious silicon valley spies away from the office. All they could see were joysticks and they weren't too much of a threat." "In 1983 we made a motherboard for the breads to be plugged in, took this to the CES show and we showed some little demos to selected people away from the main floor. At the show itself, they wrote the bouncing ball demo and this blew people away. They couldn't believe that all this wiring was going to be three chips. The booming noise of the ball was Bob Parasseau hitting a foam baseball bat against our garage door. It was sampled on an Apple ][ and the data massaged into Amiga samples.CES was really important to us as we were getting short of money and the response from that show really lifted the team. We were still short of money and several re-mortgages later we managed to keep up with the payroll. It's amazing how much it costs to pay 15 or 20 people!" With things running desperately close, Amiga were forced to look for more finance to keep the ball bouncing. They turned eventually to Jay's old employer, Atari: "Atari gave us $500,000 with the stipulation that we had one month to come to a deal with them about the future of the Amiga chipset or pay them back, or they got the rights. This was a dumb thing to agree to but there was no choice." They offered $1 per share but Amiga were hoping for much more than that. The offer was refused and as Atari knew about the troubles of Amiga, they then cut the offer to 85 cents a share. Commodore stepped in at the last minute to scoop the prize from under the noses of their arch rivals and take the Amiga for themselves, shelling out a mere $4.25 per share and installing the team in the Los Gatos office. Jay continued the story: "Tramiel [the president of Atari] was livid when he found out he couldn't get his hands on the chips, as the whole idea of financing us was just to get the chips, not the people designing them, unlike Commodore who needed to keep the team intact. The Atari 400 and 800 [which Jay designed also] series were great computers in their day, but you know things move on. When he didn't get the chipset his only alternative was to design a new computer without the custom chips so he came up with the ST. This wasn't a bad little computer but lacked the power of the Amiga's chipset." Tell us something we don't know, Jay!! What about MIDI, why wasn't that included? "Actually MIDI isn't so far away from the standard serial port on the Amiga, and soon after the machine was released, someone came up with a tiny plug-in box that gave you all the MIDI inputs and outputs, but Commodore refused to manufacture and push it which was one of my big disagreements with them. If you've got a little company doing great third party products which makes your machine so much more competitive, you've got to support them. Commodore in the past have been too greedy, wanting everything for themselves without paying for it, but I think they're changing. I hope they're changing, anyway." The Amiga 1000 really didn't take shape until long after Commodore bought it. The president had the idea of sliding the keyboard underneath the machine and it took nearly a year to redesign the motherboard to fit in. Everything was set and then Commodore decided that 512K of RAM was too much: "They wanted a 256K machine as the 512 was too expensive. Back in those days RAM was very pricey, but I could see it had to come down. I told them it couldn't be done as we were too close to being finished, it would spoil the architecture, etc, etc. Dave Needle came up with the idea of putting the cartridge on the front which worked. I was in favour of putting sockets on the motherboard so the user could just drop in the chips." As events turned out, Jay's opinion was vindicated when, on release, it became patently obvious that the machine needed the 512K to do anything meaningful and this was the shipping form in the UK. Commodore's short sightednes cost the world another 6 months without the Amiga, during which time RAM prices fell anyway! "I spent this time polishing up the software/hardware documentation, renaming registers to be more meaningful. This was actually time well spent in the end." Regular readers will know that I'm always going on about how wonderful Intuition is to work with so I asked Jay to tell me a bit about its development. "RJ Mical pretty much did it all himself. He was holed up for three weeks (!) and came out once to ask Carl Sassenrath about message ports. That's it, really! He wrote Intuition and went on to do the graphics package, Graphicraft, as noone else could do it right. Remember the Jarvik 7 heart animation - they actually talked to the guy and got permission to draw it, and the animation was cycling the colour registers. A lot of quite beautiful pseudo-animations were done that way. That's how we did the rotating pattern of the bouncing ball. Other machines couldn't use that system". Once all the software was done, it was time for the big release of the A1000. Jay's reaction: "There were a lot of compromises which I didn't like, but it was better than it might have been if we hadn't gotten our way on a lot of things. We didn't get our way on everything, though. The 256K RAM was a real problem. The software people knew it was inadequate but nobody could stand up to Commodore about it. We had to really argue to put the expansion connector on the side and this was before the deal was finalised so we were close to sinking everything. The lowest cost way of doing it was the edge connector and I'm glad it got through". "Once the A1000 was out were kind of at a loss. There was so much dealer and developer support necessary that a large proportion of our company went into that. We had 11 or 12 people in that and we wanted to expand, but Commodore wouldn't let us, and in fact they made us lay off some people. We tried to talk Commodore into building a machine with vertical slots and they eventually came out with the A2000, but they weren't keen at first". Once the Amiga was released, work at Los Gatos continued, but the days for this fine, but maverick, design team were numbered. "I was really pleased to see Commodore moving in the direction of the A2000 - it was the first Amiga you could really tailor to your own needs and this was one of the reasons for the success of the early Apples. We then wanted to go onto horizontal slots, like the A3000 as that would be easier to cool and shield - there was a design to do it but at that time the A2000 came from Germany so that's the way we went. We wanted to do the Autoconfiguration for the slots but Commodore weren't keen because it added 50c to the cost, so we had a big battle with them and did it anyway. Our divisional manager from Commodore was a guy called Rick Geiger. He was pretty good at keeping Commodore off our backs. However, there were others who were good at figuring out what we were up to and saying "No" all the time. Sometimes Rick would protect us and he was trying hard to give Commodore something they wanted badly, MS-DOS compatability. Some company promised they could deliver a software solution but it never really worked that well. There was a young fellow of Jewish persuasion, an engineer, I knew he was Jewish because he wore one of those funny little hats to work. That's no problem for me - I didn't mind if people wore pink bunny slippers as long as the job got done. Anyway, he promised MS-DOS on a small card to make an IBM interface. He worked alone, and weeks went by with nothing appearing despite all the promises which worried me a lot, and this really led to Rick's downfall. He promised he could do it and nobody kept close enough tags on him, always a few more weeks. Commodore started advertising and the board didn't work so both men were canned. This was the start of the downfall for the Los Gatos division. I've never really told this before as it was too personal but I can't remember the designer now so it doesn't matter so much. It shows that you need your peers looking over your work to get things right". How important did you think PC compatability was going to be? "Eventually Sidecar came out from Germany but there were a lot of bugs in the software and the Los Gatos team helped with solving those. They did that before the 2000. It's funny but I never really saw MS-DOS compatability as being that important for the Amiga. I said at the time to Commodore "Hey, we're different. Try to take advantage of that, not imitate or simulate other people". We could make our commands more similar to theirs. There's a tendancy when you're writing new software to try and be different with names and functions, but it isn't really necessary. We could do a better job than MS-DOS, which would have been enough with the Amiga's superior operating system and colour resolution capabilities to take a really big bite out of IBM. Instead they kept promising compatability and not delivering which is worse." After that, Commodore wanted the design team to move back East, and not surprisingly they declined, so gradually the Los Gatos facility was closed down and Jay left. We carried on talking about the interim period and also about the staff recently at Commodore: "The VP of engineering [Bill Sydnes] got canned. He designed the PC Junior which really crashed, one of IBM's big mistakes, and gave the Amiga a window of opportunity which Commodore failed to exploit - a little competitive advertising would have gone a long way." What about the overall handling of the Amiga over the years? Does it annoy you that there are 10 times as many PCs as Amigas? "Yeah, that really does annoy me. I don't have any financial connections with Commodore any more so I don't get anything out of Amiga sales. Things should have been a lot different. I still feel fatherly towards to Amiga, more so than any of the Ataris. What frustrates me the most is that people are missing out on something very special in the Amiga. They tell me about their IBMs and wonderful Macs but they're still missing out". The Toaster is a killer product over here, what do you think? "It's a fantastic product. Commodore made a really big mistake in not embracing the Toaster in its early days, and getting a real piece of it. I never even envisaged it back in the design stages. TV image manipulation just wasn't around then - I put genlock circuitry and sync signalling into the first designs so that side of things we appreciated. I had no idea that things like the Toaster were coming." What would you like to see in the future? "I'd like to see Commodore grab hold of one of these 24-bit cards like the GVP or DMI boards and put it in as standard. The Amiga badly needs a standardisation of high resolution 24-bit colour modes. The JPEG board from DMI is another wonderful product which needs to be standard in high end Amigas. They'll wait like they always do until someone else has made the standard and try and add something in while others are going to make a bundle of money - look at GVP. Gerard Bucas was VP of Engineering and he wasn't doing things the way Commodore liked, so he left. He saw a chance to make some money and look at the size of GVP - they're competing with Commodore. The next generation Amiga needs a real time JPEG converter and 24-bit graphics to stay ahead. "I did get together with Lou Eggibrecht [the new VP Engineering] for about 10 minutes and I was very pleased. He promised he'd fly out to have dinner with me and talk about the Amiga. I asked him some questions about the future direction of the chips and got the kind of answers I was looking for - the kind of things we've been talking about. High resolution, new architecture, more competitive. His understanding of the present architecture was very encouraging. I'd love to work as a consultant for them, but I don't know how much I could contribute." What's your opinion of the A4000? "You know, Commodore actually gave me one today at the show - the first time I ever got anything out of them! Putting the IDE drive onto the A4000 motherboard was a terrible mistake - every previous Amiga has benefitted from SCSI. I'm really tickled with the A4000 though. I was looking at it over the last few days and thinking how could I get to buy one of these without the wife getting to know. I have two A2000s which are fine for the BBS stuff I do at the moment. They've improved the chipset in the 4000, taking the colours to 256 from 8 bitplanes. The higher resolution and more colours are really fast. The MS-DOS interface [CrossDOS] is quite nice but I'm unhappy about the SCSI and they didn't go to full 16-bit audio, but according to Eggibrecht that's coming soon. I'm also a little disappointed they didn't use the 040's memory management facilities. The 3.0 operating system looks very good with datatypes and a number of other great features. Who needs MS-DOS and Windows?". What about CDTV? "CDTV is quite a nice idea, but the software has to be right. Can you think of anything more horrible than trying to read an encyclopaedia or the Bible on a TV, rather than a nice crisp RGB monitor? As a low cost entertainment system it's a good viable long term project. I hope Commodore won't drop the ball if things aren't as good initially; they can take on Philips." What's your favourite products? "I love the bulletin board software as that's what I'm into at the moment. ADPro is also a fantastic program. I picked up a program called Scala and I'd like to get into that - it's user interface is very impressive. I have a GVP '030 accelerator and that's incredible. The hard drive on the 32-bit card is very fast indeed - it's like a new machine". Conclusion: Talking with Jay Miner is one of the best experiences an Amiga owner can have. He really is the Father of the Amiga and his passion for the machine is so apparent. It's easy to understand the frustrations he must have at not seeing things go exactly as he wanted, with the full potential of the machine yet to be realised, some eight years after its release. One has to marvel that it is still around and selling well given its superior competition and the natural tendancy for serious users to turn to the IBM/Mac platforms. It's also clear that the Amiga Corporation contained one of the most innovative design teams ever assembled, and it is so tempting to speculate where the Amiga would be today if they had stuck together, and the efforts of Commodore had been more constructive. Their marketing people have yet to understand what the Amiga is truly about, and why it is so special. Trying to sell it as a PC is wrong as it is far more than a spreadsheet, word processing machine. Unlocking doors is what the Amiga is about, and it is only recently that the third party software is doing the remarkable hardware justice. Only time will tell if the Amiga can make the impact it is capable of and maybe Commodore should take on board the views of the Padre. Editorial Note - This interview was brought to us by Tal/S!P. We included it because we thought it could be nice for you to read it. I (-Sane-) found it far too long to edit it correctly! Sorry about that! I hope you enjoyed it anyway!!! ENKHUIZEN - THE SCENE by Chiron/Monk This article gives some information about the scene in Enkhuizen, Holland. I thought it would be nice to write some scene-info about my hometown. Since Enkhuizen is not a big city, we do not have a mentionable scene history. However, there are and has been quite some sceners which were/are active on the Amiga, starting from the very day the Amiga-scene was born until now. General info: Enkhuizen is just a little city, with no more than 16,000 inhabitants. In the middle ages Enkhuizen was one of the five biggest cities in Holland, with even more inhabitants than in the present! In the middle ages, Enkhuizen was one of the centres for inter- national trade in Holland. But when ships got bigger and bigger the V.O.C. was forced to load and unload their ships in Amsterdam, because of sand- hills in the water around Enkhuizen. The bigger ships were not able to reach the Enkhuizen port anymore, so trade was moved to Amsterdam which later grew out to be the Capital of Holland, as you all know! People started moving to Amsterdam and other big cities, so Enkhuizen's population decreased more and more. Anyway, nowa- days Enkhuizen is seen as the typical Dutch town, with a few nice and pleasant harbours, a LOT of pubs, some disco's, a cinema and some historical buildings. Enough boring facts, here is a simple schedule from the partici- pants in the scene in Enkhuizen: Handle/Group Active period (not exact) Jaze/Cadcam around 1989 Mace/Axis 1989 - 1992 Wolfman/RAF 1989 - 1992 Sane/Monk 1990 - 19?? Solid/Cryptoburners 1993 - 1994 Cloud9/Cryptoburners 1993 - 1994 Chiron/Monk 1990 - 1996 Epic/ex-Scorpio 1991 - 1996 There used to be at least one other Cadcam member living in Enkhuizen, but I do not know his/their handle(s) Other sceners living near Enkhuizen: (in villages around) Wishbringer/ex - Delight, Array/ex - Scorpio, Suave/Abnormal, Lightning/ Hoodlum and a few more (not worth mentioning!). Individual info: Jaze/Cadcam real name: ? groups : Cadcam I know next to nothing about this one, except that he was probably active in the scene while I was still only playing games on the damn machine. My first utility-pack I ever got was from this guy, it was Cadpack # 30. Cadcam also released an Easter-intro with an animation of a Bunny in it!! It was great (in those years, I mean!). By the way, I deleted this intro years ago, so if there is anyone out there who has got this intro, please send it to me!!! Mace/Axis real name: Stefan Secherling groups : RAF, Axis He was one of Enkhuizen's first sceners together with Wolfman and Jaze. His function was swapper for one of Holland's leading groups at the time, Axis! He planned to do a diskmag together with Jetset, but the cooperation failed because Jetset died (later they reborned!). Other members from Axis in that time were: Magician Lord (Anthony), Crackerjack (Jack/ Mirage), Roxis (Senze/Jetset), The Liberator and Claxon. After he quit the scene for a year or so, he wanted to make a come-back as editor, however he had already sold his Amiga and did not want to buy a new one. By the way, I am not sure if he ever was a member of RAF, but so far I can re- member he started his scene-life in this legendary dutch team. Wolfman/RAF real name: Pedro groups : RAF I do not know much about this guy. I visited him once together with Mace. All I know is that he was organizer, swapper and trader in RAF. He supplied the group with stickers etc. and organized the RAF parties in Holland (Remember the RAF-conference '91 were Axis won the 1st price with "Our Nation"?). I was told he did a huge Fido-Dido animation for a new RAF demo, (un)fortunately he never finished it. He also sold games to local Amiga users. Sane/Monk real name: Pieter v.d. Horst groups : Falon, The Lunatics, Scorpio, Septic, Monk This is the one and only active editor in Enkhuizen! He used to be a swapper, but a few years back he started writing articles for RAW, Upstream, Megazin, Hokus Pokus and ofcourse Trinity. I (ed.) started my scene-career together with him and Epic. We started of in Falon, then Lunatics and when I left for Freestyle he formed Scorpio together with some other dudes. Sane is, in my opinion, one of the leading editors in today's diskmag-scene. After a period of non-scening he is back with even more inventive ideas than before! Besides the scene he also loves movies, his girl and ofcourse beer or any other substance containing alcohole! (well, don't we all) He was/is also respon- sible for a lot of ideas used or to be used in demos, diskmags and other scene productions of such kind. Solid/Cryptoburners real name: Jeroen groups : Vicious, Desire, Cryptoburners This one is a very talented graphician. However, he has not drawn anything in the last year which is a pitty. A lot of pictures he has painted came from his own imagination, which made him a respected graphician in the Dutch scene. The only thing he should have done is improve his drawing techniques, because they were not of the standard needed to get in the charts (international charts, I mean)! It is too bad he quit the scene, because now I (ed.) am the only graphician left in Enkhuizen. Cloud9/Cryptoburners real name: Maarten Mosselman groups : Vicious, Desire, Cryptoburners This is another editor and swapper in Enkhuizen. He made a fast scene-career and a fast scene-ending. He was the main editor of Vicious's "Megazin", but was not very popular because he made too many, and too bad articles. He moved to Desire and then to Cryptoburners together with solid. He lifes a few houses away from Sane/Monk and that's how he got in connection with the scene. He still owns his amiga (I guess), but now is totally inactive in the scene. He had some potential as editor and/or swapper, so it is ashame that he has quit his activities. Chiron/Monk (ex - Jay One) real name: Yorick Burgmeijer groups : Falon, The Lunatics, Freestyle, Jetset, Motive, Monk This is me (ed.)! I am forced to be a graphician (because I lack swapping qualities), so know and then I am drawing some pixels onto my computer. I started my scene career in Falon together with Sane and Epic. We made a little sine-intro in coop. with Magician Lord/Axis, and some packs! Then we were asked to join The Lunatics, and we did. After a lunatic period I joined Freestyle, a brand new Dutch group with some ex-Axis members like Anthony, Steroid, Claxon and The Liberator. Hollywood and Kayo joined a few weeks after Freestyle was born. Then I (together with most other Freestyle-members) transferred to SkidRow's demo-division 'Jetset'! This was a stupid move from me, because I could not get my graphics released. I stopped scening for about 3/4 year, and (again) joined a new group called Motive, which unfortunately only produced 1 intro (Dogmatic) and then slowly died. Nowadays, I am a proud member of Monk, which I hope will be one of the leading Dutch crews one day (If not, I do not care!!). Epic/Independent real name: Olav Hinke groups : Falon, The Lunatics/RAF, Scorpio Epic is nowadays working under the plastic team label. He still produces quite a lot of modules, but mainly to please himself and not intended to be used in any scene productions! Anyway, we might use some of his modules in the very near future, so watch out for them!! This musician is specialized in house/ambient tunes. Some of his songs were used in RAF music-packs, but he also released some material in Falon and Lunatics productions. In my opinion he improves every time he makes a new module, so I am always looking forward to hear his latest tracks! By the way, it is possible that we are using one of his modules in this diskmag but I do not know for sure, because the mag-concept is not 100% finished at the moment I am writing this article. Productions which were made, or produced with help from/by a scener(s) (articles not included, ofcourse!) in Enkhuizen are: Perfect 5 (musicdisk) - Freestyle Magic touch (packs) - The Lunatics Cadpack 1 t/m 30 - Cadcam Pack van Pe (musicpacks)- RAF Studio (intro) - Freestyle BBS-intro - The Lunatics Infotron (long intro) - The Lunatics Crashtest (demo) - Cryptoburnrs Bad Karma (demo) - Anthony/Axis Megazin issue #1 (mag) - Vicious Megazin issue #2 (mag) - Vicious Textwriter (diskletters)- Freestyle Sine-intro - Falon Easter intro - Cadcam Devilpack 1 t/m 8 - Falon Intro - Desire Elationpack 1 t/m 3 - Falon Demopack (pack) - Axis 'Vectorbobs' intro - Freestyle Trinity AR #1 (art.rel.)- Monk Trinity AR #2 (art.rel.)- Monk Trinity intro - Monk Hokus Pokus 2,3,4 - Mellow RAYONs NOTE: Only some articles were written in Enkhuizen! Container (packs) - Scorpio Eternal issue #2 (mag) - Miracle Artistic Modulation - Scorpio Well, this is about it I guess... T H E E N D ! ! p.s.: Nowadays, the sandhills in the water (IJsselmeer) are removed, so big ships can enter the port. Editorial note by Sane: -Unfortunately by friend Chiron also left the Amiga scene! So this means I (Sane) am the only active scener in Enkhuizen! Too bad .... .... Anyway, this article of my great friend Chiron was too good to be left unused!!! Note : This is written especially for teachers !!! 10 ways to hack a pupil !! 1. Blow some chalkdust from the blackboard into the classroom, when you know some pupils are alergic to it ... 2. Tell them to have a nice weekend, when the school starts on Monday ... 3. When some pupil asks if he/she can go to the bathroom because he/she has to pee very much, say "NO !!" 4. When they put their books into their bags, 5 minutes before it's time, tell them to unpack their bags, of course it's time when they are finally ready ... Then you say "Wauw, is it so late already ?" 5. When you are a sportsteacher; let them run 20 rounds around the school, and tell them, constantly, it's healthy. 6. When you are a sportsteacher, go gym outside on the fields when it's either raining, snowing or storming. 7. Say something (not too loud!) to a pupil from who you know is slightly deaf, when the pupil doesn't answer you hit him/her very hard with a broomstick and you say "who doesn't want to listen, has to feel!" 8. Take a pupils glasses and let him/her read Latin sentences from the blackboard when the pupil is sitting in the back of the classroom. Give him/her a C minus for effort .... 9. When the pupils are very busy with an exam, you hit the window so hard all pupils are looking up, disturbed of course, excuse yourself by telling them there was a fly on the window, repeat this a 100 times. 10. When the pupils are busy with an exam (again !!) you walk trough the classroom, stand still behind the back of a pupil who is very busy, begin to laugh, very hard and stop suddenly and say : "You are doing just fine ...." By Sane "Violent Games influence the mind!" by React! Everybody has played a computergame once, you're getting overwhelmed with hundreds of titles on many different systems. From C64, Amiga, 3DO, Sega till the new Sony Playstation, you will always find a couple of games featuring violence on every system like Mortal Kombat, Tekken etc. But did you know that these games can influence you, or the people around you ?! A test that has recently been done by some psychologists in the Netherlands proved that 85% of the test persons who preferred games with alot of violence are also more violent in real life. They are more isolated in real life than others and their time on homework or reading is spended on playing computer- games. That's why their IQ is often much lower and their vocabulary smaller than people who don't play these games. Further you can see that they have a smaller variety of friends, most of them are also gamemaniacs. This test also gave the result that games with violence shouldn't be shown to people from a young age like babies and children. As their brain is still in a development stage, they keep every thing in mind what they see. It's also harder for them to recognize fiction and reality as the graphics and sound is getting more realistic these days. So if their eyes are on these violent games all day they don't know any better later on in life. They'll act more violent to other people, as they think this is the right way to behave in real life. Further there are also people who get from these games a fit of epilepsy. The doctors and psychologists aren't sure about it yet, but there were already 5 reports of persons who got this fit while they were playing such a game. And 2 of these persons played the same game. The doctors and psychologists think it's because of the combination of fast scrolling and flashing graphics with a certain music makes a person get such a fit. You'll find these kind a music and graphics often in violent and action games. And the most recent news about playing these games is that you can get sooner rheumatical affections in hands and arms if you play these games often. Because your fingers are so intense moving and pushing that they are more sensitive for rheuma (Look at Mortal Kombat!). This last thing also counts for games where you have to make alot of moves in. This article was not meant to make you anti-violent, but just to make you aware of all the influences it can have on you. Have fun with playing and know where to stop, so you won't get addicted. React! "Mailthieves, new sort of crime ?!" by React! We all have experienced this once in our life, that the mail you had sent out didn't arrive. It gets lost, just because the people aren't cautious enough, or you had written a wrong address and/or zip-code on front and no address of yourself on the back, so the post couldn't return it to you. Another possibility is that it get's stolen by the post itself, this form of criminal activities seem to be hidden by the Post-Offices. As it'll only give them a bad name. That's why I put the spotlight on this subject. This wasn't new here in The Netherlands, people knew it was there, only not on such a big scale. But people have been complaining alot about their mail not arriving at their destination lately. About 3 percent of all the mail didn't arrive, this number is only from the people who claimed this to the PTT Post. You also have people who don't claim it and just see it as an accident, so the percentage will be in reality much higher than said. You might think 3 percent is nothing, but it's alot of mail when you know that PTT Post processes tons of mail each week and millions a year. So that's 3 percent too much. The PTT Post started investigating some years ago and till now they have arrested some people at this big mailsortingcenter in Amsterdam for mailtheft. Amsterdam had a number of people who were stealing mail for years. From money till cd's, as long as it was something nice. After the arrest of these people the number of complaints about non-arriving-mail went down. Later some people turned themselves in as they couldn't cope with the pressure on them anymore. Some of them have mend their ways and are helping PTT Post now finding some solutions and pre-cautions for this problem. So the stealing of mail mostly happened at the mailsortingcenters of PTT Post. The three biggest mailsortingcenters are situated in Amsterdam, Rotterdam and at the head office of PTT Post in The Hague. The people who worked there had different tricks to steal the mail from others, I'll explain some of the most used methods : - You have postmen walking around with a roll full of labels with their name and address on it. If they see something nice, they just stick their label over the address and they get this piece of mail delivered at their home. - Old fashioned way, they just open the piece of mail and see what's in it. If it's interesting they take it out and when it's not nice they just put a special plastic-bag around it which says it's damaged while transporting. - Further you also have postmen who place a surcharge for fun on a piece of mail. They make the fine that high that some people won't pay it, so that these postmen can take this piece of surcharged mail home and open it there. If people pay the fine, then the postmen always have the money for themselves. Of course you can never stop this sort of crime completely, but you can make things harder for the thieves, so that it's less attractive to take it. Some tips... - Don't use envelopes that just fit around the object you want to mail. Use a larger envelope then needed, so that the object you mail is harder to be recognized by the thief. Fill the empty space with some light plastic bubbles or paperwaste.When you want to mail a (Video)tape/Cd whatever it's very easy for a thief to recognize this in a tight envelope. Postmen can feel with their hands that the object is massive in some seconds. So when you use a larger envelope (can be with bubbles inside) and filled up space, it's more confusing for the postmen. - Write the address of the person you want to mail it too big. Because that's not so attractive for the thief to label it with his/her address. As the label will never cover the whole address then. And if you write down an address, never use a light color, prefer using black/darkblue etc. This is much clearer and you'll see that easy through a label. If you just aren't capable of writing big then use a marker or a thick pencil. - Another method to avoid your mail getting labeled by a thief is placing the stamp near the address. When the thief wants to put his label over your address he also has to cover a part of the stamp which makes marking it by computer impossible. So when the marking will be done by hand, the postmen will see that somebody has labeled your mail. As the stamps are covered with a piece of label and you can see the address through the label. If the stamps were marked before the sorting you will see the mark through the label of the thief too which certainly makes it conspicuous. - Cover the weak spots of your envelope with tape, mostly that are the places where you have closed the envelope before you mailed it. When you use tape it's harder to open than when you just close it normally. - If you think that the surcharge that is attached to a piece of mail addressed to you is high or seems suspicious. Always let it check a second time by another postman, or contact the manager of the head postoffice in your town. Also when you see that the envelope was opened by somebody else first and then closed again. You can maybe think of some more things... These tips of course can't guarantee you that it'll arrive for the full 100 percent, but it's better than using nothing. If you really want to make sure that your piece of mail arrives then you can always send it registered. This will also be processed the same way as normal mail, only it gets registered everytime by a computer where it is. That's why it's labeled with a (bar-)code, if it doesn't arrive at your home you can always check up where it has been the last time. If you still want more security I advise you to contact the nearest parcel service like DHL, Fedex, UPS in your town. They work with their own distribution-network which is much better compared to the ones from the Post-offices in your country around Europe. Well, I have been talking all the way about the post in The Netherlands, but it can of course also happen in your country. So keep your eyes open! React! "Cheating, there are so many ways..." by React! Since the rising of Post Offices around the world and the high postage rates that are getting raised every year, people started to find out how to mail their things cheaper. Cheating was the solution. I know there has been written alot of articles about this subject in the past, but things change, so does the post and the ways of cheating. In this Article I will publish new and old methods that have been approved to work properly. Ofcourse there are exceptions, it depends on how smart the post in your country is. For instance, the Dutch Post (PTT) in Holland, where I live, already knows all these tricks. So these cheated methods hardly work here. They have put some addresses on a blacklist, on this list are people who get suspicious mail. For instance, mail that's cheated, lowpayed or not legally mailed. Everytime that the mail has to be sorted out here, before it'll be delivered, the postmen check the mail from these blacklist addresses twice as good. They check weight, sometimes contents and they even rub with a wet finger over the postmark to see if it goes off the stamp. Really absurd, but it's reality here in Holland. Ofcourse it doesn't happen everywhere in Holland, but you see it happening very often now. And this might be happening in your town too, maybe in a different way, but you won't even notice it when you're too busy. So be ware! Here we go... - Colorcopy. Make a colorcopy of a sheet full with stamps. The colorcopies are of such a good quality these days that you can't tell them apart. The only thing you have to do is cut the stamps from the copied sheet and stick them on your mail. Ofcourse keep the real sheet of stamps as original, so you can copy them all over again when you need them. BTW, not every copyshop let's you colorcopy these stamps, as they sometimes know what you're going to do with it. :) You can give as excuse that the sheet of stamps will be the cover of a project you're doing for school about stamps and mailing. Of course, you can think of more excuses, just improvise. - Tape. One of the old-school methods... Very often used in the early days, when the post-offices were really stupid! Nowdays, the quality of tape has been improved alot. It doesn't blink anymore, completely transparant, which makes cheating better. A good and known brand is 3M Scotch Tape, this is also the best tape to make this cheatingmethod work. You can buy it in any decent hobby/bookstore. You just put a stamp on a decent surface, for instance a table. Then you put some tape on the stamp which hopefully will cover the whole stamp. If the stamp is too big, you must put another piece of tape next to it. But be precise in it, as there musn't be any space between the two pieces of tape. Also put some tape on the back, so it'll be stronger and not such a weak piece of paper. Now you only have to cut off the pieces of tape that stick out on the sides of the stamp. Use a sharp hobbyknife to finish this job, it's ready to use now. Just stick it with some glue on your mail. When you get the stamp back you just pass over a sponge and the postmark will get off. Get the stamp off the envelope and you have your stamp back again, ready to be re-used. - Glue. I believe this is with the Tape method, one of the most used cheating methods these days. For the best results you need a glue that hardly smells and not blinks, so it's harder to detect it from an original clean stamp. You just stick the stamp on the mail, and take a bit of the glue on your finger. You rub and spread it out on the stamp, so it'll be good covered. Don't forget to put some glue on the sides too, but don't spread it out where it's not needed! Let it dry and it's ready to use. When you get the stamp back, you just pass the sponge over it and the postmark will go off. Then you have to soak the stamp in some warm water to get it of the old envelope. Let it dry and you have a clean original stamp again. Remember that you've washed the glue off now, so if you want to re-use it you have to put some glue on it again, spread it out, etc. If you're in the situation that you can't use a good glue, you can also use other substances like Soap, Hairspray, Gel, Candy etc. Just to name some, but those are not so good as glue, it mostly blinks alot, makes the stamp change color and makes it smell. The best glue till now is wallpaperglue, it has all the advantages that is needed to have success. - Acid. A complete new form for me, but it seems to work really good. A method invented around these days. The acid must be something like a paint/ink remover, you can buy this stuff in any Drug- or Artstore. You just soak your finger or an old cloth in the acid and then you rub it on the stamp marked with the postmark. If it's correct the postmark will be removed. Don't rub too hard, or else you'll damage the stamp. The post uses in some countries an ink that won't go off completely as the stamp absorbs the ink when it's marked. Further you can use alot of stamps with a low value instead of one stamp with a high value. For instance when you have to mail a parcel which needs Fl 10,- Guilders of postage on it. You won't buy a Fl 10,- Guilder stamp, you just buy 2 Fl 5,- Guilders Stamps or even better is buying 20 stamps with the value of 50 cents, or any similar value. Spread the stamps over the piece of mail, you can think of many ways. Sticking the stamps in every corner or on the back of the mail, whatever. Because the distance between these stamps are too big, the markingmachine won't get all stamps in reach to give them this postmark. So there are always some stamps unmarked which you can re-use again. Sometimes postmen will grab this mail and mark the stamps by hand. But then you can use afterwards some acid to get if off. - Lowpaying. With this method you're not putting enough stamps on the envelope. In the early days it was often used in Germany and The Netherlands, but nowadays it seems possible everywhere. People sometimes also send it as Printed Matters (Like 'Drukwerk' in The Netherlands & 'Warensendungen' in Germany) as you have to pay less for it. Often the post won't even notice it, as they have to process alot of mail every day. This next form is really weird that it can be used, but this really works when you're sending stuff to your foreign friends abroad. A pack of cigarettes often contains a rectangular or square seal on top to show the consumer that it hasn't been opened. If you carefully take this seal off you can use it as a stamp. It has the right size, shape and look. If you take a closer look you'll see the price of the cigarettes in the currency of your country written in big characters on it. Further there's some more info written in some small characters about the contents and where it's made etc. This price is now the the postagevalue of your stamp. The rest is easy, you just stick this seal with some glue on the envelope and it's ready to use. Just like you do with an original stamp. If you want you can cheat or colorcopy it, so you can re-use it again. If you're a non-smoker there are also similar forms that can replace the cigarette-seal like saving stamps/coupons from supermarkets and gasstations. A legal way of cheating, is that possible?! Yes, but this is not handy when you're swapping with alot of people. But it's always nice to know... Sometimes you'll find stamps with a small wax-coating on it, esspecially when there's a new stamp released by the post. They put this coat on it to make it shine and blink alittle. So you don't have to cheat it anymore, the post already did that for you! :) When you get these stamps back you just have to rub with a sponge over it and if it's correct the mark will get off too together with the wax-coating. So rubbing the postmark off when you use it the second time won't work, as the coating was already gone when you used the sponge the first time. You find these coated stamps alot in Germany, Hungary and The Netherlands. Maybe it's in your country too... Some methods discribed above can be combined, like colorcopied stamps cheated with glue or tape. You have more combinations and experimenting is the only way to find out what suits you best. Like I said before it all depends on how smart the post in your country is. BTW. I WON'T take any responsibility for damage, getting caught etc. It's up to you if you use it or not. If you're using these methods or any similar form of it, YOU ARE responsible for your actions and NOT ME! If you do it, do it right! So don't write your address down on discs or on a piece of paper that is in the envelope as the chance that you'll get caught by post or cops is much bigger then. React! "Ascii's, just some simple characters?!" by React! Ascii, a form of art to express your creativity. It's getting used alot in the modem-scene for menu's, file id's, etc. But also for adverts, letters and for infront of productions. At the moment it's getting more and more appreciated by the sceners as ascii-charts and ascii-magazines are getting produced. Which you couldn't find so often in the early days. Further you could satisfy your eye's with some Ascii-Demo's and I heard that there were even Ascii Compo's at different parties. So you can see progress in the world of Ascii's. Programs like 'Iff to Ascii' make the life of an (lazy) Artist much easier than in the past. Making nice letters you've drawn in Dpaint are now to be admired in Ascii-Format too. This is just something small to make Ascii's more nice, something to expand your creativity. Nowadays everybody seems to be making Ascii's, there are getting alot of Ascii-Collections released every week. There are really alot of cool ones, but most of them are crap, as people think it's so easy to make them. They just put a character here and there and then you have a nice creation. Well, forget it! Every character that's placed on the screen has been thought about it first. Sometimes you can even ruin a logo or picture if you have inserted one or two characters to much. It's just like painting or making graphics, a stripe or some pixels to much can make the work give a bad look. It takes practice to make some decent things, you can't just make something perfect for the first time. You can really see who's a real artist and who's not, as some people are just copying other styles and changing just some characters to make it look different. I even saw some artists using some ideas from (unknown) artists without giving them credits. And then these people say that they have created it. I hear you say, this makes the competition much more fun and better. Well, I don't agree that with you, as it's using somebody else his work just to make your name more known. Copying things and giving no credits shows that this person hasn't any creativity at all and no respect for other people's and its work. I don't call that competition, but cheating. Any similarities between artists is normal, as they get influenced by each- others style without knowing it. But an immediate ripoff is easy to detect from influenced work. Copying is not the same as being inspired by something. I agree with the Hugo Boss : "DON'T IMMITATE, INNOVATE!". Much respect to all the original Ascii Artists around the globe. React! PS : Thanks to Mortimer Twang for some info! FORTUNE COOKIES by Chiron Winter is the season in which people try to keep the house as warm as it was in the summer, when they complained about the heat. If anything can go wrong, it will. AMAZING BUT TRUE... If all the salmon caught in Canada in one year were laid end to end across the Sahara Desert, the smell would be absolutely awful. Lunatic Asylum: The place where opti- mism most flourishes. It's really quite a simple choice: Life, Death or Amsterdam. Always borrow money from a pessimist; he doesn't expect to be paid back. Dentist: A Prestidigitator who, putting metal in one's mouth, pulls coins out of one's pockets. -- Ambrose Bierce If bankers can count, how come they have eight windows and only four tellers? In a five year period we can get one superb programming language. Only we can't control when the five year period will begin. Barach's Rule: An alcoholic is a person who drinks more than his own physician. The trouble with being punctual is that people think you have nothing more important to do. Micro Credo: Never trust a computer bigger than you can lift. If I kiss you, that is a psychological interaction. On the other hand, if I hit you over the head with a brick, that is also psychological interaction. The difference is that one is friendly and the other is not so friendly. The crucial point is if you can tell which is which. The probability of someone watching you is proportional to the stupidity of your action. Enzymes are things invented by biologists that explain things which otherwise require harder thinking. -- Jerome Lettvin SCORPIO (Oct 23 - Nov 21) You are shrewd in business and cannot be trusted. You will achieve the pinnacle of success because of your total lack of ethics. Most scorpio people are murdered. God isn't dead, he just couldn't find a parking place. Be wary of strong drink. It can make you shoot at tax collectors and miss. One good reason why computers can do more work than people is that they never have to stop and answer the phone. Tomorrow will be canceled due to lack of interest. AMAZING BUT TRUE... There is so much sand in Northern Africa that if it were spread out it would completely cover the Sahara Desert. Flon's Law: There is not now, and never will be, a language in which it is the least bit difficult to write bad programs. Famous last words: Passionate hatred can give meaning and purpose to an empty life. Anyone who hates Dogs and Kids Can't be All Bad. -- W.C. Fields The cost of living hasn't effected it's popularity. On a paper submitted by a physicist colleague: "This isn't right. This isn't even wrong" -- Wolfgang Pauli A diplomat is a man who can convince his wife she'd look stout in a fur coat. Liar: a lawyer with a roving commission. An Englishman never enjoys himself except for a noble purpose. People who have what they want are very fond of telling people who haven't what they want that they don't want it. Let He who taketh the Plunge Remember to return it by Tuesday. Good advise is something a man gives when he is too old to set a bad example. -- La Rouchefoucauld Avoid Quiet and placid persons unless you are in Need for Sleep. A classic is something that everybody wants to have read and nobody wants to read. -- Mark Twain __________________ _______________ __ ________ ________ __________ \ ___ /\_ _ \\ \_ Y \ \_ _ \ \_ _ \ \_ ______/ /\____ \/\/ | \\____ __/ | \/ | _\/ | \/ __/___ _/ _/ \ _ \ | \\ \ _ \\ | \ \ \_______ \___| \_ | / \____ \___| \\___| \____ \_ |______/ |______/ |__/ |______/ |____/ |______/ |______/ . ________ ________ ________ _______________ __ ::. \_ _ \ \_ _ \ \_ _ \\ \_ Y \ ::: / | \/ | \/ | _\\____ __/ | \ ::: :. _/ ____/\ _ \ _ \ | \\_____ \ ::: ::: \ | \___| \___| \ | / | \_ :::..:::... \_____| |______/ |____/ |__/ |______/ ::::::::::::. ::: ::: | | w H E N ?? |___________________\ / The Saturne Party 4 will start on Friday, 1st of November 1996 at 10:00am and will end on Sunday, 3rd of November at 2:00pm. | | w H E R E ?? |___________________\ / This demo-party will be held in France, at Chelles, a town situated at about 15kms East from Paris. Very easy to reach, important and free parking. Address of the party place: Centre Culturel de Chelles place des Martyrs de Chateaubriant 77500 Chelles France ! The main room can welcome more that 1,000 people and offers a lot of facilities like WC, showers and public phones at the nearby. There'll be another room, silent and confortable, for sleeping (don't forget your sleeping bag !). A bar will be open 24 hours a day with sandwiches, pizzas, sodas, etc. at very low prices. An information-point will try to answer all your questions and problems during the party. You could also bring demos or others to be seen on the giant screen there. A local computer dealer will be present to offer you all needed peripherals and materials (disks, hard drives, cd-rom drives, etc.) at quite nice prices. | | t H E p R I Z E S ?? |_____________________________\ / The entrance fee is 120 FF (for all 3 days). Only french currencies will be accepted. Free for girls !!! 50% of all entrance fees will go for the competitions. | | t H E c O M P E T I T I O N S ?? |_________________________________________\ / Amiga Demos: A1200, accel. card with at 68030 at 50MHz, 8Mb of Fast. PC Demos: Pentium 120MHz, 8Mb of ram, Soundblaster or Gravis sound card, max. video resolution is 640x480. 64Kb Intros: All the same than for demos, but file is limited to 64Kb. One competition for both PC and Amiga !!! Graphics: 2 separated competitions : drawing and raytracing. Drawing : max. resolution is 640x512 with 256 colors. Raytracing : max. resolution is 640x512 with 16M colors. Music : Module with 4 to 32 voices, all file formats accepted by Cubic Player (Protracker, XM, S3M, etc.) Wild Compo : All machines (Falcon, SGI, etc.) and videos (VHS, S-VHS) All people present at the party place could vote for all competitions. You'll be asked to vote right after each competition. There'll be 3 winners in each competition, all winning a proportionnal amount of cash depending on the number of people present. | | e X T R A C T S f R O M t H E r U L E S !! |_______________________________________________________\ / All competitors have to be present at the party place. Only one demo and one intro per coder. Only one picture per artist. Only one module per musician. There could be selections for all competitions, made by the organisers. All productions will be spreaded right after the competitions, even if they have not been selected. You are entirely responsible of all your materials ! All illegal software are forbidden ! Smoking, alcohol and drugs are not allowed inside the party place ! All trouble makers will be immediately expulsed out of the party place ! Don't bring up a big hifi, you'd be asked you to shut it down ! Cooking is not allowed inside the party place ! | | s A T U R N E ' S " e X C L U S I V E S " !! |_____________________________________________________\ / Giant screen : 6m x 4.5m Professionnal hifi equipment Network games competitions (Duke Nukem 3D...) Sexy dancing girls Great animations and ambient ! Some professionnals will be present too and will certainely search for talented people. A CD-Rom containing all the productions released at the party will be avaiable about one week after it for 99,-FF (booking possible at the party place) NEW NEWS !!! --> Starting today, a fabulous intro-invitation competition ! --> Realize an intro on the machine you want, with ALL the --> present text file included in (english AND french versions). --> Then, send it to us before the 1st of October, last limit. --> Winners will receive their wonderful prize during the party, --> it's not a part of those 50% entrance fees. --> No restrictions, no boring rules... --> ... Just be creative and original ! | | h O W t O r E A C H t H E p L A C E ?? |_____________________________________________________\ / By plane : From Roissy-Charlles De Gaulle or Orly airports, take a bus to the East Station (Paris), then follow the "By train" indications. By train : From all stations in Paris, but East Station, take the subway to the East Station. From the East Station, take a train to "Chelles-Gournay", then follow the signs to the "Saturne Party" (5 minutes walk). By car : From Lille (Belgium, Holland), take the A1 Higway to "Paris". Follow the A104 one to "Metz/Nancy", then go out at Chelles and follow the signs. From Metz/Nancy (Germany), take the A4 Highway to "Paris". Follow the A104 one to "Lille", then go out at Chelles and follow the signs. From Bordeaux (Spain), take the A10 Highway to "Paris". Follow the A104 one to "Lille", then go out at Chelles and follow the signs. From Lyon (Italy, Switzerland), take the A6 Highway to "Paris". Follow the A104 one to "Lille", then go out at Chelles and follow the signs. | | t O c O N T A C T u S ... |_________________________________\ / By mail : Saturne Party 4 Stphane Vasseur 23 rue des Beaux-Regards 77450 Esbly France! By phone : Guillaume - +33 (01) 60.01.97.77 Vincent - +33 (01) 69.05.37.11 By BBS : Big Bug BBS - +33 (01) 49.63.04.39 By E-mail : ether@club-internet.fr <~ tHIS sHEET hAS bEEN dESIGNED bY vODKA/sATURNE&oSMOSE ~> Will there be a future for Amiga? --------------------------------- The Situation abround Amiga these days is very critical, there are Less games out these day's, and you cant feel any support from the owners of Amiga? Are there comming new models soon or not?. Well nobody can say something about that , but there are companies bussy with the PowerPC project that's for sure! But nobody knows if this NEW machine will be the thing were every- body is waiting for. Because lot's of people sold their Amiga and buyz PC! Because PC is getting better all the time, but for Amiga there is almost no progress!! But there is a new company involved called PIOS , wich is very bussy with a PowerPC project, and they say that they will have a PowerPC Amiga system ready for the end of the year! I hope these guys will make it but i don't beleve in their words. But one thing is for sure, there are lot's of Amiga lovers overthere: Dave Haynie - Project Manager Hardware Designer of A2/3/4000. Andy Finkel - Project Manager Software One of the man behind the AmigaOS. Peter Kittel- Former Head of Amiga- Technologies. John Smith - Worked for 7 years at CBM England. Maybe we can hear a lot of this company, but first we want to see some improvements! They have plans to make a kind of a Amiga emulator on a PowerPC based system, and after that they want to port the whole system to PowerPC. They say this way is the best way to port Amiga os to PowerPC. I hope these guys keep their word! Meanwile Phase5 is still very bussy on their own PowerPC project, and they said that they will have a complete PowerPC board ready at the end of this year for Amiga 3000 and 4000. In my opinion is Phase-55 a mutch better company than PIOS, but at the end of the year we will see wich one will keep it's promise! What will they need for a 100% Killer Amiga Machine: ------------------------------------- If these companies wat to get the Amiga back as it was in 1990. Then they have to make 2 models: LowEnd and and HighEnd machines! LowEnd (Wich includes): ----------------------- - PowerPC 603 or 604e. - A fully 24 bit supported graphics interface. All 50Hz, no laced modes anymore. - 16 Bit 24/32Channel Sound. - Custom Chips: 3D GFX!, Faast copper, Faast Blitter. Realtime chunkey to planner conversion. - 3.5 Inch HardDrive (IDE). - HD-Disk Drive. - TV Composyt/Scart connection. - Little LAN network build in for games and networking. - PCI bus. (No more Zorro). - Tower (No DeskTop!). - AmigaOS 4.0 (More flexibility with the Window Managing!). - Price Around : $800-$1000,- HighEnd (Wich includes): ------------------------ - A fully 24 supported graphics interface. All 50Hz-90Hz non laced resolutions up to: 1600 x 1200. - Custom Chips: Faast copper, Faast Blitter.3D Graphics like: Zbuffer, fogging, texture mapping, OpenGL standard. Realtime chunkey to planner conversion. - 3.5 Inch HardDrive (IDE). - HD-Disk Drive. - TV Composyt/Scart/VGA connection. - Little LAN network build in for networking and games. - PCI bus. (No more Zorro). - Tower (No DeskTop!). - AmigaOS 4.0 (More flexibility with the Window Managing!). - Price Around : $2000-$3000,- Optional: --------- - Preception Motion Video Card. - PAR Motion Video Card. - Whide SCSII card. - Faast 24 Bit system upgrade like SGI/SUN. We all Amiga lovers hope the best for the Amiga, but everything is still unsure! Hope to inform you with better news in the next issue of HokuSPokuS. .:RAYON:. -=NEWS=- ARTWORK: ------- - Axis (Coder) Joined Artwork from Oxyron. - Graham (Coder) Joined Artwork from Oxyron. AXIS: ---- - ANTHONY seems to be very inactive. Maybe he left the scene? - LOWLIFE went to england to work as graphic artist for a game company called DOMARK. - TIM ditto! (But oly then as coder). BLACK LOTUS: ----------- -Tim (coder) has a job in the UK. Desire (Facet's Pussy): ---------------------- - Riox Left Desire and joined MeLLoW, he was the last member of the group. - Riox is now father of his justborn child (It's A GIRL!!!!) Congrats. Riox! - Desire is dead. GIANTS: ------ - Candyman left the giants and went to Session. HAUJOBB: ------- - There mag is out or should be out very soon. IMPULSE: ------- - Gato (Swapper) joined. - Beast (Graphician) joined from Magic12. - EFT (Coder) started working on a new project maybe for Saturne-4. MELLOW: ------ - Riox (ex-Desire) Joined MeLLoW as demo/intro coder. - Sane (ex-Monk) Joned MeLLoW as fulltime editor of HokuSPokuS. - Tall (ex-Surprise!Productions) Joined MeLLoW as HP spreader. MONK: ---- - Monk is dead. - Chiron (ex-Jay One), the graphician left the scene! - Sane (editor) left Monk and joined MeLLoW. - Sane/Mellow is a fulltime editor of Hokus Pokus. - Vicious/Monk (coder) has no inspiration for the scene anylonger! - React/Monk (swapper) left Monk to stay independant. - SnapCap/Monk (coder) left the scene. - Trinity (the diskmag)/Monk is dead!!! NAH-KOLOR: --------- - Magnet (the new diskmag) will not be released in 1996. - Python/ex-TPDL joined Nah-Kolor. RAW: --- - RAW is dead!! - RAW 10 will never be released?, the articles are on Raw-online! - Lord Helmet is back but not for RAW! - Astro sold his A1200? did he left the scene? - Is Astro having a baby ??? - Some day's ago RAW 10 was released (only the articles/pics/mods) no complete diskmag, just some files. RAMJAM: ------- - Magic Nah-Kolor will be the new editor of ShowTime. - ShowTime will be released in the end of September. SESSION: ------- - Candyman joined session (Left Giants). SURPRISE!PRODUCTIONS: -------------------- - Tall left Surprise!Productions - Surprise!Productions seems to be dead. Tall was the last member. The big world news about Amiga! --------------------------------- Phase5: ------- Phase-5 is commin' up with new hard- ware. Phase-5 introduced their new CyberVison 3D Graphics card, wich can do: Texture Mapping, Fogging, Shading. The CyberVision-3d is based on the Virge chipset of S3. Wich gives the possebilities to do realtime graphics, like 3D engines OpenGL modeling in LightWave etc. Phase5 Introduced their new Blizzard 1240/ERC (68040/40Mhz + FPU/MMU). For cheap prices: Around 700 DM. PIOS: ----- - A complte Amiga system before the end of this year. More info about PIOS read 'Amiga And It's future' in this mag!. US!: ---- It seems to be that the group US is bussy with a nice game. The game is called: Double Agent, and looks like Spy vs Spy, we all know from the c64 days (ofcoz there was an Amiga version of Spy Vs Spy), but this one looks mutch better, better style better graphics. We hope that we can receive the game very soon. Or is it just a fake? New Programs?: -------------- New programs are comming out? When we look at some of the software houses, it seems that the Amiga is worth enough for some software houses to make new software for this machine. Like the 'new' release of PhotoGenics 2, wich has lot's of new features for image processing. A must have when you are doing foto- styling. And it seems to be that ProDad was very bussy the last moth. They released their new program: Monument Designer , a Scala like program, only this one works a bit different and has other features. It's now waiting for all the other companies to come up with updates for the Amiga like makers of ADPRO, Electronic Arts (Dpaint), SAS institute (C/C++), Hi-Soft (Pascal) EuroPress (Amos), Makers of PPaint, and lot's more. But one thing is for sure, if there will be no new Amiga soon, these software houses will never release software any more And then it will be the end of this Jay-miner (And his team) Creation! GVP 060?: --------- GVP introduced their new A4000DT060 turbo board. Lot's of people thought that GVP was dead, but this is the first sign of the NEW GVP-M, they designed a new turbo board for the Amiga 4000, a 060 wich can handle processors up to 66Mhz, (faster then the CyberStorm from Phase5), with a max of 128MB memory on the card (4x32MB). On the board there is a FastSCSI-2 Dma controller mounted, wich is using a NCR SCSI chip for very fast transver rates. At the end of the year there will be versions available for A3000T and A4000T. EAGLE Amiga?: ------------- Eagle Amiga. A new production of Amiga clones. Amiga Technologies gave license to the German company Eagle. Eagle is going to design their own Amiga mother board for the Eagle 4000 tower. On this Eagle mother board are 7 Zorro3 ports and 2 video ports. Ofcourse the chipset is stil Aga. And Kickstart is still 3.1. Price Around: 2800 DM >HanDle & GroUp : >VoTEsHEeT SprEAd BY : Rayon / Producer of HokuSPokuS. : Dutch Charts : Dutch Charts : :-------------------------------------:-------------------------------------: :CODERS. -> 1. | BOARDS. -> 1. | : 2. | 2. | : 3. | 3. | :-------------------------------------:-------------------------------------: :GRAPHICIANS. -> 1. | GROUPS. -> 1. | : 2. | 2. | : 3. | 3. | :-------------------------------------:-------------------------------------: :MUSICIANS. -> 1. | PRODUCTIONS. -> 1. | : 2. | 2. | : 3. | 3. | :-------------------------------------:-------------------------------------: :SWAPPERS. -> 1. | : 2. | : 3. | :-------------------------------------: :--------------------------------------------------------------------------: : SeNd The FiLleD VoTeSHeEt To : : :--------------------------------------------------------------------------: Rayon / MeLLoW OudeVaart 38. 1749ch Warmenhuizen. The Netherlands. EMail: rayon@pi.net Or Just Upload It On >> THE UNDISCOVERED BBS << In Area REQUESTS! And Leave Mail To Me That You Posted It. :--------------------------------------------------------------------------: +----+--------------------+----------------------------+ | | | | +----+--------------------+----------------------------+ Nr: Voter: Group: 01 Coolio Grasshoppers 02 Pantera Balance 03 Vega RamJam 04 Morino TheFect 05 Hotitepper RISM^SCS 06 Moone Fresh 07 The King Erotic Design 08 Immortal Freezers 09 Plusster Factor 10 LFO Phuture 303 11 Devistator Eltech! 12 Fogazi Giants 13 Haralampie Gillette 14 TAL Surprise Productions 15 Noodle Haujobb/MeLLoW 16 SDS RNO 17 Fashion ex: Static Bytes 18 Gangsta Scoopex 19 KANEDA Grasshoppers 20 QBA Nah-Kolor 21 HardFire NGC/Intense 22 Magic NAH-Kolor 23 Elliott Reality 24 Tim Axis 25 LowLife Axis 26 Radavi Royal 27 Astro CNCD 28 Kerstel Syndrome 29 Sane MeLLoW 30 Celtic Axis/SmeLLoN 31 Candyman Session 32 RABL VOID 33 KaosMaster Technology 34 DRAC Ambrosia/p303/Scalaris 35 Groover PaCifIc 36 Phase CDS^NPL 37 Braindead 38 Gangsta Scoopex/Head! 39 LightNing 40 Action 41 Infant Essence? 42 Rooster Vision 43 Sear Dylem 44 BOOBA Sector5/Venal 45 RAYON MeLLoW MerchandiZe! +----+------------------------------+------------------+ | | | | +----+------------------------------+------------------+ Nr: Productions: Amount of votes: 01 Big Time/Axis 20 02 PictureBook/Axis 7 03 Groovy/Lemon 6 Numb/Movement 6 Menace/Desire 6 Numb/Movement 6 04 Unknown Territory/Axis 4 HokuSPokuS - MeLLoW 4 Tag/Jetset 4 Exile/Desire 4 05 Can't Be/Vision 3 FairyTale/Axis 3 06 Rinkadink/Lemon 2 Troep - MeLLoW 2 Forgotten/Mirage 2 Molested Music's - MeLLoW 2 ChitChat 2 OverLoad / JetSet 2 07 Speed 1 Time & Emotion 1 Anounce/Lemon 1 Kleine Jongen 1 NixMisMee/Effect 1 Scandal / Desire 1 Bauaua / Reality 1 +----+------------------------------+------------------+ | | | | +----+------------------------------+------------------+ Nr: Groups: Amount of votes: 01 Axis 26 02 Desire - FP (DEAD!) 19 03 MeLLoW 11 04 LEMON 9 05 Monk 5 06 Quartex 4 07 Movement 2 SmeLLoN 2 Reality 2 Mirage 2 Divas 2 08 Vision 1 NAH-Kolor 1 (Own Vote) Jetset 1 +----+------------------------------+------------------+ | | | | +----+------------------------------+------------------+ Nr: Boards: Amount of votes: 01 Boondocks 14 02 The Undiscovered/IFT/MST/RYL 7 Neon City 7 03 Mystical Places 5 04 The Southern Tribe 3 05 The Pay Off 2 NightShift / MeLLoW 2 Dreamscape 2 Logic Systems 2 06 The Lab 1 Wild Palms 1 No Vegetables/Mirage 1 World Of Elite 1 Again no TraderList because of the lack of Ami-Express coders. If you are an Ami-Express coder and you want to create a util for Ami-Express wich counts every DL/UL activity of every user. Contact us at: Rayon / MeLLoW HokuSPokuS Ami-Tool OudeVaart 38 1749CH WarmenHuizen +----+------------------------------+------------------+ | | | | +----+------------------------------+------------------+ Nr: Swappers: Amount of votes: 01 Noodle/Haujobb/MeLLoW-HPsprd 24 (Unbeatable) 02 Coolio/GrassHoppers 14 (Good NewCommer) 03 Celtic/Axis/Smellon 12 04 React/Independed 11 05 Sascha/MeLLoW/Talent 6 06 Radavi/Effect 5 07 Astro/Movement 4 08 Huib/MeLLoW 3 09 Magic/Mirage 2 Fiction 2 Styles 2 Fate/Outlaws 2 Kr'33/Spaceballs 2 10 Rabl 1 Rayon/MeLLoW 1 Sane/Monk 1 Ramon b5/Desire 1 +----+------------------------------+------------------+ | | | | +----+------------------------------+------------------+ Nr: Musicians: Amount of votes: 01 911/Movement 22 02 Super Nao/Lemon Point 21 03 Fabian/Desire 12 04 Iso/Axis 5 05 Msw/Effect 4 06 HEIN/Vivid 3 Huib/MeLLoW 3 07 KrypTon/MeLLoW 2 BazzMan/MeLLoW 2 Jayce 2 08 Toxic 1 The Wizz/Reality 1 Prodigy 1 Ratbone/Desire 1 +----+------------------------------+------------------+ | | | | +----+------------------------------+------------------+ Nr: Graphicians: Amount of votes: 01 Facet/Lemon 36 02 Danny/Spaceballs 28 03 Lowlife/Axis 15 04 Hein/Spaceballs 13 05 Huib/MeLLoW 6 Eros (Eswat)/Paradox 6 06 Solid/Cryptoburners 3 07 Senze/Jetset (Seck4) 3 08 CHIRON (Ex-jay one)/MONK 2 Elliot/Spaceballs 2 +----+------------------------------+------------------+ | | | | +----+------------------------------+------------------+ Nr: Coders: Amount of votes: 01 Antony/Axis 27 02 Dope/Spaceballs 18 03 Tim/Spaceballs 15 04 Celtic/Axis/Smellon 7 05 Sure/Quartex 6 Jack (Crackerjack) 6 06 Infant/Fp 4 07 Tsm/Vision 3 Rayon/MeLLoW 3 Kiwi/Effect 3 08 Huib/MeLLoW 2 Sacha/Desire 2 09 Revo/Applause 1 IkilledHer/URGH 1 Riox/MeLLoW 1 Vicious/Monk 1 KillRaven/MST 1 ... About The WORLD Charts And The Votes ... The WORLD chart for so far gives you a little idea about wich people are the most populair sceners.We didn't had enough votes for a 100% perfect chart, but this is just our first one and we hope to collect many more votes next issue. In the next issue there will be more charts, like: Best DiskMag, Best Demo Best Movie, Best Music CD. We can use every vote so everybody send your VoteSheet! Cya in a next issue of HokuSPokuS!.. .:RAYON:. >HanDle & GroUp : >VoTEsHEeT SprEAd BY : Rayon / Producer of HokuSPokuS. : World Charts : World Charts : :-------------------------------------:-------------------------------------: :CODERS. -> 1. | GROUPS. -> 1. | : 2. | 2. | : 3. | 3. | :-------------------------------------:-------------------------------------: :GRAPHICIANS. -> 1. | DEMOS. -> 1. | : 2. | 2. | : 3. | 3. | :-------------------------------------:-------------------------------------: :MUSICIANS. -> 1. | DISKMAG/ -> 1. | : 2. | CHARTS 2. | : 3. | 3. | :-------------------------------------:-------------------------------------: :SWAPPERS. -> 1. | MOVIE -> 1. | : 2. | 2. | : 3. | 3. | :-------------------------------------:-------------------------------------: :--------------------------------------------------------------------------: : SeNd The FiLleD VoTeSHeEt To : : :--------------------------------------------------------------------------: Rayon / MeLLoW OudeVaart 38. 1749ch Warmenhuizen. The Netherlands. EMail: rayon@pi.net Or Just Upload It On >> THE UNDISCOVERED BBS << In Area REQUESTS! And Leave Mail To Me That You Posted It. :--------------------------------------------------------------------------: +----+--------------------+----------------------------+ | | | | +----+--------------------+----------------------------+ Nr: Voter: Group: 01 Pantera Balance 02 EXL Vatryana 03 Steve Jones DEEP 04 SplatterHead Fanatic 05 BOOBBA Sector5 / Venal 06 CandyMan Session 07 Plug Psykotrope / Intense 08 Blaze Phuture 303 09 Speedy Jewels 10 Phisster Factor 11 Tal Surprise Productions 12 Noodle Haujobb 13 Dave Freezers 14 Drac Ambrosia/P303/Scalaris 15 KaosMaster Technology 16 RABL VOID 17 CandyMan Session 18 CeltiC Axis 19 Kestrel Syndrome +----+--------------------+----------------------------+ | | | | +----+--------------------+----------------------------+ Nr: Voter: Group: 20 Sane MeLLoW 21 Magic Nah-Kolor 22 Bifrost IRIS 23 Elliott Reality 24 Flower IRIS 25 Coolio Grasshopper D 26 Radavi EFT/RYL/bla,bla,bla.. 27 David 28 Astro CNCD & Sonik 29 Argon MeLLoW 30 Rayon MeLLoW +----+------------------------------+------------------+ | | | | +----+------------------------------+------------------+ Nr: Productions: Amount of votes: 01 Nexus 7 / Andromeda 10 02 Closer / CNCD 6 TINT / TBL 6 03 Psychedelic / VD 5 04 Twisted / Polka Brothers 3 05 Full Moon 2 Mirror / Andromeda 2 Pinch 2 DataWorld / Infect 2 Passengers / 3LE 2 Desert Dreams / Kefrens 2 06 Love 1 Roots 2.0 1 Fashion / Syndrome 1 Ehi / Artworks 1 CyberSpace 1 ShowTime / RAMJAM 1 No / Polka Brothers 1 ZIF / Parallax 1 +----+------------------------------+------------------+ | | | | +----+------------------------------+------------------+ Nr: Productions: Amount of votes: 06 Generation X 1 Prey 1 Alien Inspiration 1 White Premium / Freezers 1 UnderWorld 1 FruitKitchen 1 BigTime Sentuatlity (Axis) 1 Lyad / Alcatraz 1 The Gate 1 RAW 1 Inference / Sanity 1 Gevalia / Polka Brothers 1 Arte / Sanity 1 +----+------------------------------+------------------+ | | | | +----+------------------------------+------------------+ Nr: Groups: Amount of votes: 01 Polka Brothers 10 02 Virtual Dreams 9 Andromeda 9 03 Sanity 7 04 CNCD 5 05 Artwork 4 The Black Lotus 4 3 Little Elks 4 06 Sonik 3 Scoopex 3 07 MeLoN Design 2 BomB 2 Freezers 2 Balance 2 08 Axis 1 MeLLoW 1 Scarby 1 Parallax 1 Syndrome 1 +----+------------------------------+------------------+ | | | | +----+------------------------------+------------------+ Nr: Groups: Amount of votes: 08 Agoa 1 Silents 1 Haujobb 1 Passion 1 Oxygene 1 SpaceBalls 1 Kefrens 1 Lemon 1 +----+------------------------------+------------------+ | | | | +----+------------------------------+------------------+ Nr: Swappers: Amount of votes: 01 Skinner / Eltech 7 02 Ghandy / GODS 6 QBA 6 03 Noodle 5 04 Norby 4 Trasher / Artwork / BomB 4 05 Coolio 3 REACT 3 Mount / Polka Brothers 3 06 Black Dragon 2 Miko 63 2 LFO / P303 2 Sascha / MeLLoW / Talent 2 Action / Damage 2 Decoy 2 Raivo 2 Kerstel 2 TAL / MeLLoW 2 Scarby 2 +----+------------------------------+------------------+ | | | | +----+------------------------------+------------------+ Nr: Swappers: Amount of votes: 07 Kalikone 1 HardFire / Intense 1 Hysteric / Intense 1 Paperboy / Simplex 1 Crusader 1 Mr. King / TRSI 1 Gangsta / Scoopex 1 Celtic / SmeLLoN / Axis 1 Fugazi 1 Lord / Abs 1 Mike / MST 1 Exion 1 +----+------------------------------+------------------+ | | | | +----+------------------------------+------------------+ Nr: Musicians: Amount of votes: 01 Jogeir / VD 7 02 Dizzy / CNCD 5 03 CHROMAG 4 LizardKing / RZR 1911 4 Jester 4 AudioMonster 4 04 Hollywood 3 Groo / CNCD 3 Slide / Polka 3 05 HeatBeat 2 Dr.Awesome 2 Moby / NooN 2 JUGI 2 Mortimer Twang 2 Virgill / Essence / Artwork 2 Pink / Abyss 2 06 CUTCREATOR / PASSION 1 ISO / Axis (own Vote) 1 MaF / Syndrome 1 +----+------------------------------+------------------+ | | | | +----+------------------------------+------------------+ Nr: Musicians: Amount of votes: 06 Scorpik / Absolute 1 Virgill / Essence 1 StroBoy 1 Claus / Impact Studios 1 WotW 1 DeeLite 1 Dreamer / Nah-Kolor 1 Bethowen / Freezers 1 Mr. Man / Andromeda 1 Romeo Night / TRSI 1 SuperNao 1 +----+------------------------------+------------------+ | | | | +----+------------------------------+------------------+ Nr: Graphicians: Amount of votes: 01 Danny 9 02 Lazur / Nah-Kolor 8 COUGAR / SANATY 8 03 Ra / Sanity 7 04 FairFax / Andromeda 5 05 Made / BomB 4 Louie / Insane 4 Facet 4 06 Peachy / TRSI 3 Fade One 3 R.W.O 3 Pixie / Polka Brothers 3 07 Mack / Melon Design 2 SONY / BOMB 2 08 Bridgeclaw / GODS 1 Rodney 1 Couoad / Artwork 1 Tensuo / Syndrome 1 DevilStar 1 +----+------------------------------+------------------+ | | | | +----+------------------------------+------------------+ Nr: Graphicians: Amount of votes: 08 JCS 1 Fiver / TRSI 1 Walt / Melon Desing 1 +----+------------------------------+------------------+ | | | | +----+------------------------------+------------------+ Nr: Coders: Amount of votes: 01 Dr. Scull / VD 8 02 Dr. Jerkyl 7 Mr. Hyde 7 03 Tsunami 6 Merge / Polka Brothers 6 04 Azure / Artwork 5 05 Ninja / Scoopex 4 Gengis / Bomb 4 Chaos SVT 4 06 Tim / Axis 3 Musashi / UNION 3 BoogyMan 3 Gargoyle / Polka Brothers 3 07 Juliet 2 Explorer / 3LE 2 08 Oxbab / Oxygene 1 Simply & Debug / Paralax 1 Sputnik 1 Guille / Syndrome 1 +----+------------------------------+------------------+ | | | | +----+------------------------------+------------------+ Nr: Coders: Amount of votes: 08 Syntax 1 Southnile / Freezers 1 Stellios / Axis 1 Alien / VD 1 The Spy 1